Author: Peter Skinner
Date: 13:35:00 09/08/05
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On September 08, 2005 at 11:26:03, Djordje Vidanovic wrote: >Nice post, Peter. Friendly and sympathetic. However, I would like to emphasize >two things: > > >GCP posted his now already infamous piece about all users of UCI engines being >hypocrites... stating, among other rather fuzzy reasons, the already vacuous >arguments about the cheating ChessBase interface that does not allow fair-play >against the native engines such as Fritz, Junior etc. > >GCP simply insulted people by calling them hypocrites for no reason at all as >they were mainly voicing their preferences as potential buyers of the >forthcoming Zappa 2.0, and he used a bogus argument about the treacherous CB >interface. I know he called people hypocrites, and rather should have said they were being hypocritical. He could then use his arguement with some validity. >The CB argument is bogus because there is a UCI engine that beats most, if not >all, current CB native engines. That UCI engine is Fruit / Toga by Fabien >Letouzey (modified by T. Gaksch). Very true, and I didn't say he was correct in this matter at all. I just didn't touch on it because it is more of an opinion and he is allowed to have one. In fact everyone is. He should remember that to.... >I hate being called a hypocrite, and so do all other people who merely wanted to >make some useful suggestions. I also hate hearing unfounded paranoid >accusations that were shown to be empty in the past here, on CCC. I didn't really look at his post as calling _me_ or _you_ a hypocrite. I saw it as a blanket statement made to all those stating that they would not purchase Zappa if it didn't have UCI support, and they are more than welcome to take those actions. In some ways "they" were being hypocritical, and in others they weren't. They were making a consumer choice and nothing more. GCP over looked that. >Thus, I think that GCP exhibited a lot of arrogance and bumptiosness, if not >downright insolence. I also think that the majority of readers share my point >of view regarding his posting. I think so to. The unfortunate thing about that is everyone is in a huff over nothing. It is Anthony's right to include/not include UCI support in Zappa, and as consumers we have the right to not buy it/not buy it due to that decision. If you look at all the statements as I am, then really it is just people expressng opinions and they are clashing. It is also getting heated which I am try to avoid by seeing both sides of the situation. >To a much lesser degree the postings of Anthony Cozzie exhibited some sort of >insolence, and were lacking in tact, to say the least. I think Anthony was getting angry because people were putting words into his mouth that he didn't say, and pulling him into an arguement he would rather not have. I would have the _exact_ same reaction and get equally pissed/upset/insolent. In fact I would be a little more harsh than he was. :p >I am aware that time will slowly obliterate the young men's follies and that we >will enjoy their programs in the future. Still, I feel obliged to react. I have no ill will against either man. For once I am in the position of trying to put out the flames instead of fanning them.. and I miss the dark side :) Peter
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