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Subject: Re: New King's Indian opening moves?

Author: Eelco de Groot

Date: 23:07:49 09/08/05

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Very impressive from Fruit! Is Fruit MR a betaversion or a special compile? In
the analysis from Pro Deo Vulcan, the reply 5..Na6 to 5.h3 only surfaces on
iteration 19. That is after a deep search of 8 hours! A branching factor of
about eight after iteration 18. Then 5.Bf4 is chosen again as the best reply but
only by a very small evaluation margin. Currently searching that move at ply 20.
Romanishin plays 5..c6 after 5.Bf4

 [Personality = {9k16h5}] * Pro Deo 1.1 (February 2005)

 1.Nf3 Nf6 2.c4 d6 3.Nc3 g6 4.d4 Bf5

 [D]rn1qkb1r/ppp1pp1p/3p1np1/5b2/2PP4/2N2N2/PP2PPPP/R1BQKB1R w KQkq -

 00:00:00   1.00  -0.30  5.e4 Nxe4 6.Nxe4 Bxe4
 00:00:00   1.02  0.36  5.Bg5
 00:00:00   1.03  0.39  5.Bf4
 00:00:00   2.00  0.09  5.Bf4 Bg7
 00:00:00   2.20  0.25  5.Qb3 b6
 00:00:00   3.00  0.36  5.Qb3 b6 6.Bf4
 00:00:00   4.00  0.15  5.Qb3 b6 6.Qb5 c6
 00:00:00   4.02  0.21  5.Nh4 Bg4 6.h3 Be6
 00:00:00   4.14  0.25  5.Ng5 Bg7 6.e4 Bg4
 00:00:00   5.00  0.45  5.Ng5 Bd7 6.e4 Bh6
 00:00:00   6.00  0.37  5.Ng5 Bd7 6.e4 h6 7.Nf3 Bg7
 00:00:00   7.00  0.41  5.Ng5 h6 6.e4 Bc8 7.Nf3 Bg7
 00:00:00   8.00  0.37  5.Ng5 h6 6.e4 Bg4 7.Nf3 e5 8.Be2 Nc6
 00:00:00   9.00  0.37  5.Ng5 h6 6.e4 Bg4 7.f3 Bd7 8.Nh3 e5 9.Nd5 Nxd5
 00:00:01  10.00  0.34  5.Ng5 h6 6.e4 Bg4 7.Nf3 c5 8.Be2 Bg7 9.Bf4
                        cxd4 10.Nxd4
 00:00:03  11.00  0.29  5.Ng5 h6 6.e4 Bg4 7.Nf3 e5 8.Be3 exd4 9.Bxd4
                        Nc6 10.Nd5 Nxd4
 00:00:06  11.04  0.36  5.Bf4 Bg7 6.e3 Nh5 7.Bg3 Nc6 8.Be2 Nxg3 9.hxg3
                        h6 10.Nd5
 00:00:09  12.00  0.32  5.Bf4 Bg7 6.e3 Nh5 7.Bg3 Nc6 8.Bd3 Bxd3 9.Qxd3
                        Nb4
 00:00:21  13.00  0.36  5.Bf4 Bg7 6.e3 Nh5 7.Bg3 Nc6 8.Be2 Nxg3 9.fxg3
                        Bh6 10.e4 Bg4 11.Nd5
 00:00:49  14.00  0.36  5.Bf4 Bg7 6.e3 Nh5 7.Bg3 Nc6 8.Be2 Nxg3 9.hxg3
                        h6 10.Nd2 O-O 11.Bg4 e6 12.Bxf5 exf5
 00:02:19  15.00  0.31  5.Bf4 Bg7 6.e3 Nh5 7.Bg5 h6 8.Bh4 c5 9.Bd3
                        cxd4 10.Nxd4
 00:05:05  15.15  0.36  5.h3 Bg7 6.g4 Bd7 7.Bg2 Nc6 8.O-O O-O
 00:08:31  16.00  0.34  5.h3 Bg7 6.g4 Bd7 7.Bg2
 00:20:00  17.00  0.36  5.h3 Bg7 6.g4 Bd7 7.Bg2
 00:56:25  18.00  0.33  5.h3 Bg7 6.g4 Be4 7.Nxe4
 08:35:51  19.00  0.32  5.h3 Na6
 10:14:26  19.01  0.32  5.Bf4 Bg7 6.e3  (Not a fail-high but small eval
difference less than 1/100 of a pawn, rounded down. Because of the small
difference also the long search at ply 19.00 I think)

 Eelco

Used version of Pro Deo settings:

Pro Deo 1.1 Vulcan {9k16h5} testversion has gone back to
[EVALUATION = NORMAL] as with [EVALUATION = SMART] I could not find any  version
that found a good line quickly in Testposition 36 from Michael Gurevich. Maybe
some tactics are slower now but the main lines als appear not to vary as much.
Maybe that depends on better tuning. This time slightly higher queen values as
in some of the CM settings. I don't usually think that works but who knows.
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[Personality = {9k16h5}]       * Pro Deo 1.1 (February 2005)
[Pawn Value = 90]
[Knight Value = 90]
[Bishop Value = 90]
[Rook Value = 90]
[Queen Value = 95]
[My Queen = 96]
[King Safety = 170]
[Mobility = 125]
[Pawn Structure = 100]
[Passed Pawns = 110]
[Pins = 100]
[Bishop Pair = 100]
[Chess Knowledge = 300]
[Attractiveness = 110]
[Attacking = 110]
[Strength of Play = 100]
[Draw Contempt Factor = 0.00]
[Selective Search = 100]
[Search Technique = NULLMOVE]

[Engine Master = off]           off
[Engine Learner = off]          off|on
[Book Learner = off]     off|passive|moderate|strong|aggressive
[Position Learner = off]         off|on
[Extended Book Learner = off]   off|read|write|read&write
*
[Pruning = MISC_25]             *
[Pruning = MISC_37]             * Hash Table extension (-18%) DEFAULT
[M37_Val = 3.00]                * Default unknown
[Pruning = MISC_40]             *
[Pruning = MISC_52]             *
[QS Margin = 10.00]             * Default is 3.00
[Fail High Margin = 10.00]      * Default is 9.00
[Checks Depth = 4]              * Limit QS checks to 4 ply, default is 2
[Pruning = MISC_66]             *
[Pruning = MISC_69]             *
[Pruning = MISC_78]             *
*
[Center Control = 35]           *
[Bishop Mobility = 25]          *
[Right to Move = 80]            *
[Strong Squares = 130]          *
*
[Pruning = MISC_02]             *
[Pruning = MISC_03]             *
[Pruning = MISC_39]             *
[Pruning = MISC_08]             *
[Pruning = MISC_12]             *
[Pruning = MISC_76]             * Rook 7th rank (new style)
[Rook 7th Rank (low) = 60]	*
[Rook 7th Rank (high) = 60]	*
[Pruning ? MISC_48]             * No FHR pruning in QS
[Pruning = MISC_17]             * Skip first extension (+30-35%)
[Pruning = MISC_10]             * NULLMOVE Block first extension
[Pruning = MISC_22]		* Sort root moves on nodes
[Pruning ? MISC_30] 		* Extend singular checks
[Pruning ? MISC_36]             * Extend double attacks (W6) at the leafs
[Pruning ? MISC_28]             * (2,2,1,1)      >> in test <<
[Pruning = MISC_13]             * Extra bonus Bishop Pair
[Pruning = MISC_27]             * Eval double pawns (new style)
[Futility = 100]                * Futility Pruning.
[Blitz Time Control = 120]      * use more time at blitz levels
*
[Pawn Pressure midg = 150]      * weight pawn pressure middlegame
[Pawn Pressure end0 = 130]      * weight pawn pressure early endgame
[Pawn Pressure end1 = 120]      * weight pawn pressure endgame
[Pawn Pressure end2 = 110]      * weight pawn pressure simple endgame
*
[Knight Mobility = 88]          * 88
[Double Pawns = 110]            * 112
[Pawn Formation = 110]          * 108
[Weak Pawns = 110]              * 112
[Minimum Knight Mobility = 100] * 100
[Minimum Bishop Mobility = 100] * 100
[Passed Pawn King Tropism = 100]    * king tropism to own passed pawns
[Progressive Isolated Pawns = 100]  * weight isolated pawns (new style)
*
*
[ANTI-GM = OFF]
[EVALUATION = NORMAL]
[Extensions (remaining)= 3]
[Extensions (checks)= normal]   * low|moderate|normal|strong|all
[Extensions (captures)= 0]
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