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Subject: Re: Shredder or Fruit?

Author: Vikrant Malvankar

Date: 03:47:34 09/09/05

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On September 09, 2005 at 06:41:24, Alex Shalamanov wrote:

>On September 09, 2005 at 05:55:16, Madhavan wrote:
>
>>I expect that there would be less customers if shredder were to be released
>>sooner because of its WCCC results.
>>For Fruit,I don't know I expect Fabien to give us a great surprise by releasing
>>his program freely [with or without code]
>>I don't want source code anyway :)
>
>I don't know. The correspondence chess community does not always take into
>account the WCCC results because engine to engine games are not very important
>for them. What is more important for CC players is good deep analysis, training
>and commenting facilities that is why they choose mostly CB Shredder or Fritz.
>Since CC players are likely the most customers for chess products apart from OTB
>titled players, it's this chess group that makes ultimate profits for chess
>software developers. From my own CC experience I can say that most of my
>opponents have been using Fritz or Deep Fritz as a chess engine which is the
>most CC-friendly product. Thus, Shredder 9 and Fritz 8 (now, supposedly, Fritz
>9) are still going to be the best choices for CC players.
>As to Fruit, I suppose Fabien will either have to cooperate with CB or try to
>develop his own GUI which will take longer time, so we will not see new Fruit
>WCCC commercial for long.

He can sell Fruit as UCI just like Stfen Mayer Kahlen without GUI ofcourse.

And I don't believe him to be completely uniterested
>in commercial benefits to release his Fruit just for nothing.
>I'm going to tell you more. I don't believe Couzzi's cooperation with Diepeeven
>will benefit. As far as I know, Vincent has been trying to promote his Diep D3
>for quite a while, without much success, though. Developing a 2D GUI is not a
>one day's matter, so he'll either work on that for 1-2 months more or release
>Zappa 3D which will not make the customers happy, you know. And we won't see
>Zappa 2.0 soon, not untile the end of year. Sounds very pessimistic, though, but
>it seems a likely case. Therefore, Chessbase will still reign with their Fritz 9
>and later on with Hiarcs 10 or Shredder 10 making the bulk of the chess software
>market profits.
>Alex



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