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Subject: Re: Shredder or Fruit?

Author: Côme

Date: 06:21:28 09/09/05

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On September 09, 2005 at 08:43:41, Uri Blass wrote:

>On September 09, 2005 at 08:06:29, Torstein Hall wrote:
>
>>On September 09, 2005 at 07:21:52, Uri Blass wrote:
>>
>>>On September 09, 2005 at 06:41:24, Alex Shalamanov wrote:
>>>
>>>>On September 09, 2005 at 05:55:16, Madhavan wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>I expect that there would be less customers if shredder were to be released
>>>>>sooner because of its WCCC results.
>>>>>For Fruit,I don't know I expect Fabien to give us a great surprise by releasing
>>>>>his program freely [with or without code]
>>>>>I don't want source code anyway :)
>>>>
>>>>I don't know. The correspondence chess community does not always take into
>>>>account the WCCC results because engine to engine games are not very important
>>>>for them.
>>>
>>>As a correspondence player engine games are important for me.
>>>
>>>
>>> What is more important for CC players is good deep analysis, training
>>>>and commenting facilities that is why they choose mostly CB Shredder or Fritz.
>>>
>>>I see no difference between Shredder UCI and CB Shredder and every engine that
>>>can be used under CB interface.
>>>
>>>
>>>>Since CC players are likely the most customers for chess products apart from OTB
>>>>titled players, it's this chess group that makes ultimate profits for chess
>>>>software developers.
>>>
>>>I doubt it.
>>>
>>>Are there more than 1000 correspondence players who buy new chessbase programs?
>>>
>>>My guess is that part of them use old programs and part of them crack chessbase
>>>software.
>>
>>I am quite sure you are correct on this one. I read an interview with a
>>norwegian cor. GM Ivar Bern who is close to winning in the corr. World
>>Championship. (I am not sure for what year...) He used an old version of Fritz
>>and was happy to make the strategical choices himself, while he checked all the
>>tactics with Fritz.
>>
>>Torstein
>
>I checked and he is probably one of the winners in the 17th final with 10.5/16
>only one player with 5/9 can in thoery score more than him.
>
>I know that there are people that do it but I am surprised that it could work
>also on the level of winning a world title.
>
>I think that the fact that GM Oosterom, Joop J. van scores so well also suggest
>that the level of the correspondence players is not very high.
>
>He scored 11/15 in the 18th final and now is playing in the 21th final.
>It is interesting how many points he is going to get there.
>
>I think that it should be harder for him to win games because as favourite I
>expect most of the opponents to play for a draw against him and choose lines
>that gives bigger probability for a draw.
>
>Uri

It is strongly rumored GM Jeroen Piket is really behind Oosterom success in the
WC....



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