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Subject: Re: Shredder or Fruit?

Author: Sandro Necchi

Date: 06:55:48 09/09/05

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On September 09, 2005 at 04:06:17, Alex Shalamanov wrote:

>I use Shredder 9 Classic to analyse my games. I've also found out that when I
>use Fruit 2.1 in parallel with Shredder 9 Sandro Necci (I named it that way
>because I used in it the settings Sandro proposed on the forum) under Triple
>Brain Analysis both the output and the evaluation are likely more sensible. I
>don't know why but SMK made recent Shredder version more aggressive and less
>positionally cautious; it leads to interesting but very unstable games. It's
>okay for OTB or engine-engine games but in correspondence chess this approach is
>very vulnerable.

The Columbus' egg setting (renamed by you Shredder 9 Sandro Necchi) is made by
me and not by SMK. The aim of the setting was to have a more aggressive
Shredder, willing to take more risks to create more complicated games.

>Very often Shredder's evaluation is too optimistic. However,
>Fruit with its cautious and accurate positional style 'cools Shredder off'.

What hardware and levels are you using?
My tests do show the opposite:

Columbus' egg (+ S10 book) - Fruit 2.1 (+ ASV3.ctg) = 36.5 - 22.5 (59; +27 =19
-13) 61.8 TP = +84

Fruit 2.1 lost also using Shredder 9 book running in Shredder classic
interface...

I hoped to get some results also from people here, but the setting "seems lost
in the Atlantic Ocean"...:-)

>If there was a commercially available version of Fruit WCCC, I'd surely buy it
>for its good solid and well-grounded positional style. But there's been no
>information in favour of it. What do you think is going to be released sooner:
>Shredder 10 or Fruit WCCC, if any? It's a pity the developers are so reticent.
>Alex

Shredder 10 will be quite different as this is only a different setting, while
Shredder 10 will be a new program (updated program).

Sandro



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