Author: Uri Blass
Date: 08:25:25 09/09/05
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On September 09, 2005 at 09:21:28, Côme wrote: >On September 09, 2005 at 08:43:41, Uri Blass wrote: > >>On September 09, 2005 at 08:06:29, Torstein Hall wrote: >> >>>On September 09, 2005 at 07:21:52, Uri Blass wrote: >>> >>>>On September 09, 2005 at 06:41:24, Alex Shalamanov wrote: >>>> >>>>>On September 09, 2005 at 05:55:16, Madhavan wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>I expect that there would be less customers if shredder were to be released >>>>>>sooner because of its WCCC results. >>>>>>For Fruit,I don't know I expect Fabien to give us a great surprise by releasing >>>>>>his program freely [with or without code] >>>>>>I don't want source code anyway :) >>>>> >>>>>I don't know. The correspondence chess community does not always take into >>>>>account the WCCC results because engine to engine games are not very important >>>>>for them. >>>> >>>>As a correspondence player engine games are important for me. >>>> >>>> >>>> What is more important for CC players is good deep analysis, training >>>>>and commenting facilities that is why they choose mostly CB Shredder or Fritz. >>>> >>>>I see no difference between Shredder UCI and CB Shredder and every engine that >>>>can be used under CB interface. >>>> >>>> >>>>>Since CC players are likely the most customers for chess products apart from OTB >>>>>titled players, it's this chess group that makes ultimate profits for chess >>>>>software developers. >>>> >>>>I doubt it. >>>> >>>>Are there more than 1000 correspondence players who buy new chessbase programs? >>>> >>>>My guess is that part of them use old programs and part of them crack chessbase >>>>software. >>> >>>I am quite sure you are correct on this one. I read an interview with a >>>norwegian cor. GM Ivar Bern who is close to winning in the corr. World >>>Championship. (I am not sure for what year...) He used an old version of Fritz >>>and was happy to make the strategical choices himself, while he checked all the >>>tactics with Fritz. >>> >>>Torstein >> >>I checked and he is probably one of the winners in the 17th final with 10.5/16 >>only one player with 5/9 can in thoery score more than him. >> >>I know that there are people that do it but I am surprised that it could work >>also on the level of winning a world title. >> >>I think that the fact that GM Oosterom, Joop J. van scores so well also suggest >>that the level of the correspondence players is not very high. >> >>He scored 11/15 in the 18th final and now is playing in the 21th final. >>It is interesting how many points he is going to get there. >> >>I think that it should be harder for him to win games because as favourite I >>expect most of the opponents to play for a draw against him and choose lines >>that gives bigger probability for a draw. >> >>Uri > >It is strongly rumored GM Jeroen Piket is really behind Oosterom success in the >WC.... The surprise for me is that it is still possible to score so well in World championship level in correspondence games because it is logical to expect a lot of draws in the high level and to expect the champion to be unable to get more than a score of something like 80% draws and 20% wins. Note that I heard a rumor that Oosterom has a lot of computers and GM's who help him but it still seems a surprise for me that it is possible to score more than 70% in the high level and it only suggest that the best level in correspondence games is not really high. I believe that chess is a draw and I expect almost every game in the high level to be finished in a draw. Uri
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