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Subject: Re: Shredder or Fruit?

Author: Henrik Dinesen

Date: 09:25:04 09/09/05

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On September 09, 2005 at 09:55:48, Sandro Necchi wrote:

>On September 09, 2005 at 04:06:17, Alex Shalamanov wrote:
>
>>I use Shredder 9 Classic to analyse my games. I've also found out that when I
>>use Fruit 2.1 in parallel with Shredder 9 Sandro Necci (I named it that way
>>because I used in it the settings Sandro proposed on the forum) under Triple
>>Brain Analysis both the output and the evaluation are likely more sensible. I
>>don't know why but SMK made recent Shredder version more aggressive and less
>>positionally cautious; it leads to interesting but very unstable games. It's
>>okay for OTB or engine-engine games but in correspondence chess this approach is
>>very vulnerable.
>
>The Columbus' egg setting (renamed by you Shredder 9 Sandro Necchi) is made by
>me and not by SMK. The aim of the setting was to have a more aggressive
>Shredder, willing to take more risks to create more complicated games.
>
>>Very often Shredder's evaluation is too optimistic. However,
>>Fruit with its cautious and accurate positional style 'cools Shredder off'.
>
>What hardware and levels are you using?
>My tests do show the opposite:
>
>Columbus' egg (+ S10 book) - Fruit 2.1 (+ ASV3.ctg) = 36.5 - 22.5 (59; +27 =19
>-13) 61.8 TP = +84
>
>Fruit 2.1 lost also using Shredder 9 book running in Shredder classic
>interface...
>
>I hoped to get some results also from people here, but the setting "seems lost
>in the Atlantic Ocean"...:-)

Oh no. While I'm only using a single comp, and rapid TC (so far), I'm testing
the Columbus Egg _and_ Erwin 1 settings against different engines.
CE gives an heavy impact (!), but Erwin 1 isn't bad either!
I will have to compare with S9 default when time comes.

>
>>If there was a commercially available version of Fruit WCCC, I'd surely buy it
>>for its good solid and well-grounded positional style. But there's been no
>>information in favour of it. What do you think is going to be released sooner:
>>Shredder 10 or Fruit WCCC, if any? It's a pity the developers are so reticent.
>>Alex
>
>Shredder 10 will be quite different as this is only a different setting, while
>Shredder 10 will be a new program (updated program).

Ehh, ??

Henrik
>
>Sandro



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