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Subject: Re: Shredder or Fruit?

Author: J.Dufek

Date: 15:16:37 09/09/05

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On September 09, 2005 at 08:06:29, Torstein Hall wrote:

>On September 09, 2005 at 07:21:52, Uri Blass wrote:
>
>>On September 09, 2005 at 06:41:24, Alex Shalamanov wrote:
>>
>>>On September 09, 2005 at 05:55:16, Madhavan wrote:
>>>
>>>>I expect that there would be less customers if shredder were to be released
>>>>sooner because of its WCCC results.
>>>>For Fruit,I don't know I expect Fabien to give us a great surprise by releasing
>>>>his program freely [with or without code]
>>>>I don't want source code anyway :)
>>>
>>>I don't know. The correspondence chess community does not always take into
>>>account the WCCC results because engine to engine games are not very important
>>>for them.
>>
>>As a correspondence player engine games are important for me.
>>
>>
>> What is more important for CC players is good deep analysis, training
>>>and commenting facilities that is why they choose mostly CB Shredder or Fritz.
>>
>>I see no difference between Shredder UCI and CB Shredder and every engine that
>>can be used under CB interface.
>>
>>
>>>Since CC players are likely the most customers for chess products apart from OTB
>>>titled players, it's this chess group that makes ultimate profits for chess
>>>software developers.
>>
>>I doubt it.
>>
>>Are there more than 1000 correspondence players who buy new chessbase programs?
>>
>>My guess is that part of them use old programs and part of them crack chessbase
>>software.
>
>I am quite sure you are correct on this one. I read an interview with a
>norwegian cor. GM Ivar Bern who is close to winning in the corr. World
>Championship. (I am not sure for what year...) He used an old version of Fritz
>and was happy to make the strategical choices himself, while he checked all the
>tactics with Fritz.
>

With only Fritz engine _nobody_ can win corr. World Championship ....

>Torstein
>
>>
>>There are less than 3000 players with ICCF rating of more than 2400 and I know
>>that part of the players with ICCF rating of more than 2400 use old software and
>>I guess that today big part is using only free software or quitted
>>correspondence games.
>>
>> From my own CC experience I can say that most of my
>>>opponents have been using Fritz or Deep Fritz as a chess engine which is the
>>>most CC-friendly product.
>>
>>I do not agree that Fritz is the most CC-friendly product and I see no
>>difference between using Fritz and using another engine under Fritz.
>>
>>I think that using Fritz may be productive not because it is better than other
>>programs but because it is used by other players so it can be productive to
>>predict their moves.
>>
>>Uri



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