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Subject: Re: u2600 Position of the Week

Author: Richard A. Fowell (fowell@netcom.com)

Date: 01:11:09 03/02/99

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On March 01, 1999 at 04:48:28, Will Singleton wrote:

>u2600 Position of the Week
>--------------------------
>
>5R2/8/8/4rp2/3r4/5k2/2B1p2P/2K1R3 w - -
>ArasanX Amateur, 0-1, 1999.02.27, fics
>
>In this position, White played 78. Rg8 and lost.  Could your
>program avoid that move within 10 seconds or so?  The game might be
>lost in any event (not sure); there is still some play left.
>
>Note the wide difference between Amateur and MacChess in their analyses.
>MacChess takes only 3 seconds to discard Rg8, running at over 300k nps.
>Amateur, otoh, takes 43 seconds to realize what's happening (both at ply 9).
>(The follow-on position is also worth a look.  Does your prog play 78... Kf2
>quickly?)
>
>Amateur 0.92, Macintosh g3/300 --
>ply   score     time     nodes      n/s    pv
>
>  2     320     0.01       898    53880
>  3     -64     0.04      1253    18780  Bxf5 Kf2 Rh1 Qe1 Rxe1 Kxe1
>  3      98     0.05      2138    25620  Kb2 Rb4 Bb3 Kf2
>  3      99     0.05      2402    28800  Kb1 Kf2 Rf1
>  3     100     0.05      2561    30720  h3 Kf2 Rf1
>  3     101     0.06      3072    30720  Rxf5 Rxf5
>  4     -88     0.08      4479    33540  Rxf5 Rxf5 Bxf5 Kf2 Rh1 Qe1 Rxe1 Kxe1
>  4     -85     0.10      7788    46680  Bxf5 Rf4 Rxe2 Rxe2
>  4      99     0.18     16876    56220  Kb2 Kf2 Kc3 Rh4
>  5      94     0.25     26428    63420  Kb2 Kf2 Kc3 Rh4 Kd2
>  5     100     0.30     35312    70620  Rg8 Ra5 Rg7 Ra1 Bb1 Rxb1
>  6      93     1.00     82818    82800  Rg8 Kf2 Rg1 Rh4 Rh1 Rxh2
>  7      84     2.46    254747    92040  Rg8 Rh4 Rg1 Rc5
>  8       3     9.42    934686    96300  Rg8 Rh4 Rg1 Rxh2 Rg5
>  9    -210    43.51   4119536    93900  Rg8 Kf2 Rg1 Rc5 h4 Rc4 Rxe2 Kxg1 h5 f4
>  9     -90   173.30  15411507    88800  Kb2 Kf2 Rxf5 Rxf5 Rxe2 Kxe2 Bxf5 Ke3
>Kc3 Rh4 h3 Rh6
>  9     -88   193.53  17222900    88800  Rxf5 Rxf5 Bxf5 Kf2 Rh1 Kg2 Re1 Kf2 Rh1
>Qe1 Rxe1 Kxe1
>
>MacChess 4.0, Macintosh g3/300 --
>02/01|00:00:00|       192| +269| Bxf5 Kf4
>03/01|00:00:00|      3294|  -79| Bxf5 Kf2 Rxe2+ Rxe2
>03/04|00:00:00|      4693|  -73| h3 Kf2 Rxe2+ Rxe2 Bxf5
>03/11|00:00:00|      6764|  +95| Kb2 Rb4+ Kc3 Rbb5
>04/01|00:00:00|     10761|  +96| Kb2 Kf2 Kc3 Rdd5
>05/01|00:00:00|     19781|  -80| Kb2 Kf2 Rxf5+ Rxf5 Rxe2+ Kxe2 Bxf5
>05/02|00:00:00|     21758|  -76| Rxf5+ Rxf5 Bxf5 Kf2 Rxe2+ Kxe2 h3 Kf3
>05/04|00:00:00|     25407|  -74| h3 Kf2 Rxe2+ Rxe2 Bxf5 Kg3
>05/11|00:00:00|     32001|  -72| Bxf5 Kf2 Rxe2+ Kxe2 h3 Kf3
>05/20|00:00:00|     66502|  +87| Rg8 Rc4 Kd2 Rd4+ Kc3 Rdd5
>06/01|00:00:00|     86325|  -66| Rg8 Kf2 Rgg1 f4 h3 f3 Rh1
>07/01|00:00:00|    239157|  -32| Rg8 Rh4 h3 Kf2 Rgg1 Rxh3 Bb1
>08/01|00:00:02|    667258|  -66| Rg8 Kf2 Rgg1 f4 h3 f3 Rh1 Rc4 Kd2
>09/01|00:00:03|   1073439| -188| Rg8 Kf2 Rgg1 Rc5 h4 Rdc4 Kb1 Rxc2 h5
>09/02|00:00:03|   1329074|  -84| Rxf5+ Rxf5 Bxf5 Kf2 Rxe2+ Kxe2 h3 Rd1+ Kc2 Rd2+
>Kc1 Ke3 Be4 Rh2
>10/01|00:00:08|   2854279|  -85| Rxf5+ Rxf5 Bxf5 Kf2 Rxe2+ Kxe2 h3 Rd1+ Kc2 Rd2+
>Kc1 Ke3 Be4 Rh2 Bf5
>
<snip>

MacChess 5.01 is actually a little slower to see this than MC4.0,
although on your machine, I think it would just find Rxf5+ in 10 seconds

MacChess 5.01 604e/180, 32Mb hash

Tuesday, March 2, 1999  12:57 AM

5R2/8/8/4rp2/3r4/5k2/2B1p2P/2K1R3 w - -

02/01|00:00:00|         147| +269| Bxf5 Kf4
03/01|00:00:00|        1695|  -79| Bxf5 Kf2 Rxe2+ Rxe2
03/04|00:00:00|        2588|  -73| h3 Kf2 Rxe2+ Rxe2 Bxf5
03/11|00:00:01|        4601|  +95| Kb2 Rb4+ Kc3 Rbb5
04/01|00:00:01|        8216|  +96| Kb2 Kf2 Kc3 Rdd5
05/01|00:00:01|       15712|  -80| Kb2 Kf2 Rxf5+ Rxf5 Rxe2+ Kxe2 Bxf5
05/02|00:00:01|       20340|  -72| Bxf5 Kf2 Rxe2+ Kxe2 h3 Kf3
05/20|00:00:01|       55715|  +88| Rg8 Rc4 Rg5 Kf2 Rgg1
06/01|00:00:01|       69184|  -66| Rg8 Kf2 Rgg1 f4 h3 f3 Rh1
07/01|00:00:02|      206898|  -32| Rg8 Rh4 h3 Kf2 Rgg1 Rxh3 Bb1
08/01|00:00:05|      643380|  -66| Rg8 Kf2 Rgg1 f4 h3 f3 Rh1 Kg3 Reg1+ Kf4
09/01|00:00:09|     1361952| -188| Rg8 Kf2 Rgg1 Rc5 h4 Rdc4 Kb1 Rxc2 h5
09/02|00:00:17|     2740170|  -83| Kb2 Kf2 Rxf5+ Rxf5 Rxe2+ Kxe2 Bxf5 Rf4 Bc2
Rf2 h4 Rh2
09/03|00:00:18|     2898405|  -80| Bxf5 Kf2 Rxe2+ Kxe2 h3 Ke1 Bc2 Re2 Kb2 Rh2
09/04|00:00:19|     3027573|  -71| Rxf5+ Rxf5 Bxf5 Kf2 Rxe2+ Kxe2 h4 Rf4 Bc2
Rf1+ Kb2 Rh1 h5
10/01|00:00:22|     3648134|  -71| Rxf5+ Rxf5 Bxf5 Kf2 Rxe2+ Kxe2 h4 Ke3 h5 Rh4
Kb2 Rh2+ Kc3 Kf4
11/01|00:00:33|     5523090|  -67| Rxf5+ Rxf5 Bxf5 Kf2 Rxe2+ Kxe2 h4 Rd1+ Kb2
Rd5 Bg4+ Ke3 h5 Rd2+ Kc3 Rd3+ Kc2 Ke4
12/01|00:00:56|     9707070|  -66| Rxf5+ Rxf5 Bxf5 Kf2 Rxe2+ Kxe2 h4 Rd1+ Kc2
Rd2+ Kb3 Rd5 Be6 Re5 Bc4+ Kf3 h5 Rf5
13/01|00:01:51|    20088029|  -65| Rxf5+ Rxf5 Bxf5 Kf2 Rxe2+ Kxe2 h4 Rd1+ Kb2
Rd5 Be6 Rb5+ Kc3 Kf3 h5 Re5 Bc4 Kf4
14/01|00:04:10|    45743747|  -64| Rxf5+ Rxf5 Bxf5 Kf2 Rxe2+ Kxe2 h4 Rd1+ Kc2
Rd5 Bg6 Rc5+ Kb3 Kf3 h5 Rb5+ Kc4 Rg5 Bd3 Re5

Tuesday, March 2, 1999  1:06 AM



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