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Subject: Re: u2600 Position of the Week

Author: Steffen Jakob

Date: 05:38:02 03/02/99

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On March 02, 1999 at 08:13:02, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>On March 01, 1999 at 18:44:51, Bruce Moreland wrote:
>
>>
>>On March 01, 1999 at 15:46:14, Will Singleton wrote:
>>
>>>Well, that's an unexpected result.  I ran this on Hiarcs, and after the
>>>continuation (as above), it still has white down well over a pawn.
>>>
>>>So that begs the question, does Lambchop or Ferret actually see that the
>>>position is drawn?  Can a tablebase tell you that?
>>
>>After 1. Rxf5 Rxf5 2. Bxf5, black has to move somewhere and white simply plays
>>Rxe2 on the next move, so you get Kxe2.
>>
>>The resulting KBP vs KR is drawn.
>>
>>The machine with the 5-man tables is busy right now.  I did a probe to check to
>>see that the position is drawn, but I can't check to see if a version actually
>>using them at the tips knows for sure that that ending is drawn, but another
>>version, which only has 4-man tables at its disposal, thinks it can get rid of
>>the h-pawn, leading to a drawn KR vs KB.
>>
>>So yes, when I run this I get a contempt score back.
>>
>>If the position really isn't drawn I'm sure it will come to light and I'll look
>>slightly stupid.
>>
>>bruce
>
>
>nope.. you are correct...  dead draw:
>
>                8     1.34  -0.37   1. Rg8 Kf2 2. Rgg1 f4 3. Rh1 f3 4.
>                                    h4 Rh5
>                8     2.48   0.00   1. Rxf5+ Rxf5 2. Bxf5 Kf2 3. Rxe2+
>                                    Kxe2 <EGTB>
>                8->   3.20   0.00   1. Rxf5+ Rxf5 2. Bxf5 Kf2 3. Rxe2+
>                                    Kxe2 <EGTB>
>                9     4.19   0.00   1. Rxf5+ Rxf5 2. Bxf5 Kf2 3. Rxe2+
>                                    Kxe2 <EGTB>
>                9->   6.49   0.00   1. Rxf5+ Rxf5 2. Bxf5 Kf2 3. Rxe2+
>                                    Kxe2 <EGTB>
>               10     7.33   0.00   1. Rxf5+ Rxf5 2. Bxf5 Kf2 3. Rxe2+
>                                    Kxe2 <EGTB>

What is crafty's evaluation without tablebases? :-)

Greetings,
Steffen.



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