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Subject: Re: Hunting old chess program authors. Kittinger, Spraklen, Slate, Atkin...

Author: Carey

Date: 15:53:39 09/11/05

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On September 11, 2005 at 16:55:40, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>On September 11, 2005 at 16:12:15, Carey wrote:
>
>
>Dave Slate used to play on ICC a lot.  He used the handle "rusty".  You might
>check there.  I haven't chatted with him in a year or so, but he was on ICC
>regularly.  Ditto for Kittinger, who used to work on wchessX all the time on
>ICC...

I don't normally play chess all that much, so I don't belong to it.  I guess I
could do a 7 day trial or something.

(Yes, I don't really play chess much...  I'm such a bad player, that even the
old MicroChess 2 and stuff from back then used to beat me.  I haven't improved
any over the years.    I got my first chess computer in 81 or 82.  A Fideltiy
mini sensory chess challenger.  I thought I was going to do so well... I put it
up on a higher level... and immediately lost...[grin]  I don't know why I'm so
interested in chess programs, but I am.  Ever since I saw the Atari-2600 play in
the stores, back in 79 or so.  They had it on a timer, so you only had time to
make a couple moves before it reset, but it was utterly fascinating.)


>Ken lives out in California.  Retired from Bell Labs, now runs a flying school
>out there somewhere...

I'll see if I can track that down.  Can't be too many people named "Ken" running
a flight school...


>>Mike Alexander, Fred Swartz, Jack O'Keefe, Mark Hersey (CHAOS -- Obtain
>>program)
>
>Fred was at the University of Michigan for years.  NO idea if he is still there,
>have not had contact with him in 15 years probably...

I do see one Fred Swartz in relation to there... I can try that.  I had seen
that before, but I wasn't sure if it was the right Fred.


>>Alan Baisley (TECH-II  -- Ask questions.)
>
>Jim Gilogly is around.  I've had email from him in recent years although nothing
>in the last year...


I've emailed with Mr. Gillogly.

It was definetly educational.

I discovered that some of my references were wrong... Namely that TECH-II was
not done by Mr. Gillogly.  He didn't even know of it's development.  He first
heard about after it was completed.

Most of my references tends to phrase things so that you think TECH-II was  Mr.
Gillogly's program.  Or at least that he was involved.

He wasn't.  Alan Baisley did it himself from reading Mr. Gillogly's publication
in AI.

So, it's a new program.  Very heavily based on TECH details, but a new program.
Not quite a descendant, but a close relative.  Call it a "nephew" of it.

Mr. Gillogly was actually somewhat pleased, because it meant the article was
useful and that it was actually complete enough for somebody to be able to write
a program based on his work.


I have already found some source for TECH-II.  But I'm not sure if it's the
original version or it's been modified.  (Which is why I'd like to talk to Alan
Baisley.)  I suspect it's been modified since the code has references to Mr.
Greenblatt's "CHEOPS" in it...

That was a bit surprising.  Unexpected.

I know practically nothing about CHEOPS, but discovering that a program other
than Mr. Greenblatt's program could use it was a new wrinkle to history.

The code has references to PDP-6, and there were only 23? of those.  Of course
Mr. Greenblatt used one for his program.

One of the copies of the source I have is damaged, but it doesn't have
references to either a PDP or cheops.

Curious.


Anyway, thanks for the links.  I'll try contacting Mr. Swartz to see if that's
the right one. And google around for flight schools with guy's named Ken.  I'll
nose around ICC, too.




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