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Subject: Re: ->Correct Diagram.

Author: John Merlino

Date: 17:24:12 09/12/05

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On September 12, 2005 at 19:05:40, Albert Silver wrote:

>On September 12, 2005 at 18:03:22, John Merlino wrote:
>
>>On September 12, 2005 at 11:31:19, Arnon Yogev wrote:
>>
>>>Stupid me.
>>>
>>>[D] 8/5Nk1/p3p1p1/3n4/7P/P4R2/2r4P/7K b - - 0 46
>>
>>CM9_R1 on a P4-2.4 selects Rc3 in less than a second and never wavers from it:
>
>>7:10	7/16	-1.17	143180083	46...Rc3 47.Rxc3 Nxc3 48.Ng5 Kf6
>>					49.Kg2 e5 50.Kf3 Kf5 51.Ke3 Nd5+
>>					52.Kf3 Nf6 53.Ke3 e4 54.Kd4 a5
>>					55.a4
>
>Yes, Rc3 looks right to me. Removing the rooks should make it much easier for
>Black to convert. That Black is clearly winning should not be in doubt. Just
>take off the pieces, leaving everything else as is,
>
>[D]8/6k1/p3p1p1/8/7P/P7/7P/7K b - - 0 1
>
>and anyone can see it. So Black should try to trade them off, without disturbing
>the structure.
>
>                                        Albert

I don't know if Black will be able to force a trade of the Knights as well.
That's a pretty big "if", I think....

Here's what CM9_R1 says after forcing 1...Rc3 2.Rxc3 Nxc3:

Time	Depth	Score	Positions	Moves
0:00	3/10	-1.15	66885		48.Nd6 Kf6 49.Kg2 Ke5 50.Nc8 Nb5
					51.a4 Nc3 52.Ne7 Kf6
0:01	4/11	-1.19	140138		48.Nd6 Kf6 49.Kg2 Ke5 50.Nf7+ Kf4
					51.Nh8 Kf5 52.Nf7 e5 53.Kf3 e4+
					54.Ke3
0:02	5/12	-1.22	307021		48.Nd6 Kf6 49.Kg2 Ke5 50.Nf7+ Kf4
					51.Nh8 Kf5 52.Nf7 Nb5 53.a4 Nc3
					54.a5 e5
0:02	5/12	-1.18	439792		48.Ne5 Kf6 49.Nc6 e5 50.Kg2 Ke6
					51.Kf3 Kd6 52.Nb4 a5 53.Nc2 Kd5
0:03	6/13	-1.19	742378		48.Ne5 Kf6 49.Nd7+ Kf5 50.Nb8 a5
					51.a4 Nxa4 52.Nc6 e5 53.Nxa5 Nc5
					54.Nc4 Nd3 55.Kg1
0:04	6/13	-1.13	1116982		48.Ng5 Kf6 49.Kg2 Kf5 50.Kf3 e5
					51.Ke3 Nb5 52.a4 Nc3 53.a5 e4 54.Nf7

0:05	7/14	-1.12	1652430		48.Ng5 Kf6 49.Kg2 Kf5 50.Kf3 e5
					51.Ke3 Nd5+ 52.Kf3 Nf6 53.Ke3 Ng4+
					54.Kd3 Nf2+ 55.Ke2 Ne4 56.Nf7 Kf4
0:09	8/15	-1.21	3098525		48.Ng5 Kf6 49.Kg2 Kf5 50.Kf3 Nb1
					51.a4 Nd2+ 52.Kf2 e5 53.Ke2 Ne4
					54.Nxe4 Kxe4 55.a5 Kd4 56.Kd2 e4
0:12	8/15	-1.14	4620162		48.Ne5 Kf6 49.Nd7+ Kf5 50.Kg2 e5
					51.Nc5 a5 52.a4 e4 53.Nb3 Nxa4
					54.Nxa5 Nb2 55.Kf1 Nd3 56.Nc4
0:21	9/16	-1.07	8364194		48.Ne5 Kf6 49.Nd7+ Kf5 50.Kg2 e5
					51.Nc5 a5 52.Kf3 e4+ 53.Ke3 Ke5
					54.Nd7+ Ke6 55.Nb6 Kf5 56.Nc4 a4
					57.Nd6+ Ke5 58.Nc4+ Kd5
0:43	10/17	-0.95	17284595	48.Ne5 Kf6 49.Nd7+ Kf5 50.Kg2 e5
					51.Nc5 a5 52.Kf3 e4+ 53.Ke3 a4
					54.Kd2 Nb1+ 55.Ke3 Nxa3 56.Nxa4
					Nc2+ 57.Kd2 Nd4 58.Nc3 Nf3+ 59.Ke3
1:21	11/18	-0.94	32924336	48.Ne5 Kf6 49.Nd7+ Kf5 50.Kg2 e5
					51.Nc5 a5 52.Kf3 e4+ 53.Ke3 a4
					54.Kd2 Nb1+ 55.Ke3 Nxa3 56.Nxa4
					Nc2+ 57.Kd2 Nd4 58.Ke3 Nf3 59.Nc5
2:45	12/19	-0.98	67601023	48.Ne5 Kf6 49.Nc6 e5 50.Kg2 Ke6
					51.Kf3 Nd5 52.Ke4 Nf6+ 53.Kd3 Kd6
					54.Nb4 a5 55.Nc2 Ng4 56.a4 Nxh2
					57.Ne3 Nf3 58.Nc4+ Kd5 59.Nxa5 Nxh4

At best, I think Black can only hope for a KNP vs. KN game.

jm



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