Author: ludicrous
Date: 08:07:37 09/14/05
Go up one level in this thread
On September 14, 2005 at 08:03:10, Thorsten Czub wrote: >On September 14, 2005 at 07:17:41, ludicrous wrote: > >>CSTAL II is the one program I can't go without. I couldn't believe - no one >>could believe the price of the program CSTAL 2 that I found in a shop last >>year. They had like 10 remaining copies of the CSTAL CD, and since they were >>not really chess people, they sold each CD for something like 35 cents each. > > >unbelievable. > >>Even if I could have a pc running on a million gigahertz, I will still install >>my CSTAL 2 on it (provided that the Microsoft OS running on it will still allow >>me to install old software like this. --- Windows XP with SP 2 won't allow me >>to install CSTAL anymore. I have to install CSTAL immediately after >>reformatting my pc in order to make it work.) > >strange. why is it not working ?? >i have CSTal running on my XP system, but i do not know if this is SP2. >I don't care much about operating systems. > > > >>One thing I would like to know --- several years ago, people were amazed at how >>good CSTAL fared against other program running, or calculating a lot faster than >>it. One could only imagine then how CSTAL would be, running on future machines. >>I think we can answer that now. > >yes. but we did not consider that the others would invent new algorithms too. > > > >> It appears to me that CSTAL's increase in >>strength relative to speed is not that significant. > > >its very difficult to relate a program from 1998 with todays software. > >thats 7 years of computerchess development. >one would have to REDESIGN Chess System Tal, lets say, push it with new ideas >from todays chess programs such as toga or fruit. > >maybe one should make Chess System Tal an open source project :-))) > >[Event "AMD 2400+"] >[Site "40/120"] >[Date "2005.01.04"] >[Round "1"] >[White "ChessSystemTal2.52"] >[Black "Junior9"] >[Result "1-0"] > >1. e4 e6 2. d4 d5 3. Nc3 Nf6 4. Bg5 Be7 5. e5 Nfd7 6. h4 c5 7. Bxe7 Kxe7 8. >dxc5 Nxe5 9. Nf3 Nxf3+ 10. Qxf3 Bd7 11. Qf4 Kf8 12. Qd6+ Qe7 13. h5 b6 14. h6 >g6 15. Qc7 bxc5 16. Bb5 Bxb5 17. Nxb5 Nd7 18. Rh3 a6 19. Ra3 Nf6 20. Qc6 Rd8 >21. Rxa6 Ng4 22. Ra7 Qg5 23. Qxc5+ Kg8 24. Nd4 Rf8 25. Nxe6 Qe5+ 26. Kd2 Qxe6 >27. Re1 Qc8 28. Rxf7 Nxh6 29. Rxf8+ Qxf8 30. Qxd5+ Nf7 31. Re4 Qd6 32. Re8+ Kg7 >33. Qxd6 Nxd6 34. Rxh8 Kxh8 35. Kd3 Kg7 36. Kd4 h5 37. Kc5 Ne4+ 38. Kd5 Nf6+ >39. Kc6 g5 40. f3 g4 41. fxg4 Nxg4 42. a4 1-0 > > > >> Some thought maybe CSTAL >>would be even more daring. As for me, before, I wondered if CSTAL ran on >>extremely fast hardware, maybe its style would change into something more >>fritz-like or computer like. I don't know...does anyone know the effects of >>speed to an 'intuitive' program like CSTAL? > >i do play games from time to time with CSTal on faster hardware. > >if you want i can post the games... Sure, that would be great.
This page took 0 seconds to execute
Last modified: Thu, 15 Apr 21 08:11:13 -0700
Current Computer Chess Club Forums at Talkchess. This site by Sean Mintz.