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Subject: Re: Farewell of chess programmers

Author: Thorsten Czub

Date: 00:46:15 09/15/05

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On September 14, 2005 at 19:14:18, Fernando Villegas wrote:

>Lot time ago I wrote a post about how chess sprogrammers, as many high-end
>performers in any endavour, had a certain stock of ideas -important, basic
>ideas, not talking of second rate ideas to improve the first ones- and that
>after exhausting them, they went to retirement. In other cases, I said, the
>problem was not lack of ideas but of will, stamina, desire to follow the path.
>I was strongly refuted, I recall, by Chris Theron. "It was not the case", he
>said.   Creative guys have always a bag full of ideas.
>Well?



>Since those post this happened:



>a) Lang never more wrote a really new genius. He has dedicated his efforts to
>merchandising and new platforms.


It seems Richard is not willing to rewrite the program so that the
asymetric search is done normal.
it has IMO to do with the structure of genius. this static-exchange-evaluator in
combination with the asymmetry.
he would have to rewrite it completely from the scratch, and it seems he is not
sure if the rewrite would generate a stronger genius. IMO it would.
the asymmetry and the Static exchange evaluator was an instrument to beat 80-90
years opponents. but since nullmove came, it cannot win, it has not enough
advantages anymore.


>b) Schroeder sold his company and afeter giving a farewell gift to all of us,
>Pro Deo, he retired.


Pro deo is strong with using different styles then rebel.eng.

I would on the other hand like to see more knowledge implemented in pro deo.
especially passed pawn and rook on open files etc., mate net stuff and
knwledge about WHICH PIECES CAN MATE and WHICH NOT .


>c) Theron himself has disappear. Probably it's a matter of his new engagement as
>a father, I hope it is just that.

IMO the problem is he did not try to continue Gambit tiger and instead tried to
bring gambit and normal tiger together in ONE version.
i think this was a mistake.


>d) Morsch does not hope to keep the edge and so he went -with my blessing in any
>case- to the most soft field of "human-like" engines.


lets see :-))


>e) Wittington, father of Cstal, sold his business, bought a farm to take care of
>cows and abandoned completely his criature to the voracious marketing hunger of
>minimal companies offering his program piecemeal.

yes. this chapter seems closed.
but CSTAL is alive.


>Exception made of Bob Hyatt, the exception that makes the rule, the stampede of
>programmers is continue and unstoppable.
>Ny question is: who will be the next?
>Think that now, besides age and boredom, we have another factor pushing
>retirement: sharp drop of profit.
>
>Fernando, gerontologyst

you forgot Hirsch, Kittinger and others.



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