Author: Thomas Logan
Date: 15:10:01 09/15/05
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On September 15, 2005 at 16:42:29, Marc Lacrosse wrote: >On September 15, 2005 at 13:58:54, Thomas Logan wrote: > >>That is Sandro setting columbus egg vs Fruit >> >>last 3 games 2.5 points >> > >>score thus far >> >>THOMAS-KBZT8WLT, 120'/40+60'/20+30' 0 >> >> 123456 >>1 Shredder 9 011½11 4.5/6 >>2 Fruit 2.1 100½00 1.5/6 >> >>classical time control 256m hash 3,4,5 piece endgame tables - 16m table hash >>shredder 9.ctg and Fruit_ASv3.ctg & small_book.bin, learning, no pondering >>optomised books,windows xp home a64 3400 >> >>Tom > >Hi Tom, > >I have had a lot of tests with Sandro's Columbus Egg (at blitz time control) and >I repeat I find it to be a very interesting setting. > >But i am less convinced than ever regarding the eventual overall superiority of >Columbus Egg over shredder default settings. > >Presenting only a few games against Fruit default configuration gives only a >partial evaluation. > >See what happened in my recent games (all involve Fruit WCC'2005) > >Both playing with the same neutral book, I had a first match between S9CE and >Fruit default config. > >Result was +11 =10 -9 for Fruit (53.3%). > >I then adapted fruit's UCI parameters to build an anti-Sandro config. > >This Fruit anti-Sandro won +14 =7 -9 against S9 columbus egg (58.3%). > >But this anti-sandro config was much worse against shredder 9 default config and >also against other opponents. > >And the same was true for Sandro's config against other opponents (among them : >CM10 Berean, Ktulu 7a, Ruffian 210, Ruffian 105, Spike 1.0a, SlowChess blitz >WV2) > >After 850 games I have : >Shredder 9 : 2718 +/- 41 >Fruit WCCC : 2717 +/- 42 >Fruit WCCC anti-CE : 2703 +/- 59 >Shredder Columbus Egg : 2674 +/- 58 > >So my results do not confirm yours in my testing conditions (same book for all >and short timing). > >Have a look at CEGT tests tomorrow : you will have a big surprise at >intermediate time controls ... > The CEGT website has Shredder 9 in first place at 40/40 Thats intermediate time no ? Toga I believe was second 31 points back Fruit another 6 pts back and Fritz bilbao another 5 A total 42 points separated 1st place Shredder and 4th place Toga in my testing at 40 min was a difficult opponent for Shredder Shredder did better in classical time control Tom
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