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Subject: Re: Zappa 1.1

Author: Ernst Walet

Date: 00:16:55 09/16/05

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On September 15, 2005 at 14:25:17, Ed Schröder wrote:

>On September 15, 2005 at 14:07:05, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>
>>On September 15, 2005 at 07:21:19, Ed Schröder wrote:
>>
>>>On September 15, 2005 at 06:43:22, Gian-Carlo Pascutto wrote:
>>>
>>>>On September 15, 2005 at 06:26:30, Ed Schröder wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On September 15, 2005 at 04:30:38, Mark Young wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On September 14, 2005 at 17:05:59, Ernst Walet wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Because Zappa 1.1 is SMP and 64 bit, I gave it a try and was pleasant suprised.
>>>>>>>One of my favourite chess positions is this one, where Kasparov played Rxd4.
>>>>>>>How do other engines do? If your engine finds it please give it a couple of more
>>>>>>>plies to see if it holds it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>The better test for the engine in this position, is to see when the program see
>>>>>>that Rxd4 is not winning. Since Rxd4 is only a draw with best play.
>>>>>>This is why many programs will not play Rxd4, or drop the move with a longer
>>>>>>search.
>>>>>
>>>>>1. Rxd4 cxd4 2. Re7+ Kb6 3. Qxd4+ Kxa5 4. b4+ Ka4 5. Ra7 Bb7 6. Rxb7 Qxd5 7. Rb6
>>>>>1-0
>>>>
>>>>I always thought that simply 1. .. Kb6 was never refuted?
>>>
>>>You are absolutely right, missed that one. But I would like to see the engine
>>>that plays 1..Kb6
>>>
>>>Hmmm...
>>>
>>>Ed
>>
>>
>>Here is one:  (this on my dual xeon, searching around 2M nodes per second.  WCCC
>> opteron would be 8x faster...
>>
>>               12    13.94  -1.77   1. ... cxd4 2. Re7+ Kb6 3. Qxd4+ Kxa5
>>                                    4. Qc3+ b4 5. axb4+ Qxb4 6. Qc7+ Ka4
>>                                    7. b3+ Ka3 8. Qe5 Qb6 9. Qb2+ Kb4 10.
>>                                    c3+ Kc5 11. Qf2+ Kd6 12. Qxb6+ Kxe7
>>                                    13. c4
>>               12->  20.05  -1.77   1. ... cxd4 2. Re7+ Kb6 3. Qxd4+ Kxa5
>>                                    4. Qc3+ b4 5. axb4+ Qxb4 6. Qc7+ Ka4
>>                                    7. b3+ Ka3 8. Qe5 Qb6 9. Qb2+ Kb4 10.
>>                                    c3+ Kc5 11. Qf2+ Kd6 12. Qxb6+ Kxe7
>>                                    13. c4 (s=2)
>>               13    26.64     +1   1. ... cxd4
>>               13    34.01  -0.01   1. ... cxd4 2. Re7+ Kb6 3. Qxd4+ Kxa5
>>                                    4. b4+ Ka4 5. Qc3 Qxd5 6. Qc7 Qd1+
>>                                    7. Kb2 Qd4+ 8. Kb1 Qd1+
>>               13     2:46  -0.31   1. ... Kb6 2. Nb3 Bxd5 3. Qxd6+ Rxd6
>>                                    4. Rd2 Rhd8 5. Red1 Ne8 6. f4 Bf3 7.
>>                                    Rxd6+ Nxd6 8. Rd3 Be4 9. Rd2 a5
>>
>>Plays Kb6 to avoid a perceived repetition after cxd4...
>
>Yep mine plays it too. New Challenge, which engine finds 5.Ra7!!
>
>This after: 1. Rxd4 cxd4 2. Re7+ Kb6 3. Qxd4+ Kxa5 4. b4+ Ka4 5. Ra7 Bb7 6. Rxb7
>Qxd5 7. Rb6
>
>Ed

Problem for zappa 1.1, but shredder finds it rather fast.

Ernst.

CPU0: AuthenticAMD AMD64 Family 15 Model 43 Stepping 1 2203 MHz
CPU1: AuthenticAMD AMD64 Family 15 Model 43 Stepping 1 2203 MHz
GUI: Tablebases with 5 pieces found! [Cache: 16 MB + internal 13.67 MB]
Engine: Deep Shredder 9 x64 (1000 MB)
by Stefan Meyer-Kahlen
 10/32	 0:01 	-0.05 	1.Qc3 Qxd5 2.Qc7 Qd1+ 3.Kb2 Qd4+ 4.Kb1 Qg1+ 5.Kb2 Qd4+
6.Kb1 Qg1+ 7.Kb2 Qd4+ (1.346.881) 1149
 11/35	 0:01 	-0.05 	1.Qc3 Qxd5 2.Qc7 Qd1+ 3.Kb2 Qd4+ 4.Kb1 Qg1+ 5.Kb2 Qd4+
6.Kb1 Qg1+ 7.Kb2 Qd4+ (2.347.352) 1183
 12/38	 0:03 	-0.05 	1.Qc3 Qxd5 2.Qc7 Qd1+ 3.Kb2 Qd4+ 4.Kb1 Qg1+ 5.Kb2 Qd4+
6.Kb1 Qg1+ 7.Kb2 Qd4+ (4.672.846) 1210
 13/40	 0:05 	-0.05 	1.Qc3 Qxd5 2.Qc7 Qd1+ 3.Kb2 Qd4+ 4.Kb1 Qg1+ 5.Kb2 Qd4+
6.Kb1 Qg1+ 7.Kb2 Qd4+ (7.386.329) 1237
 14/42	 0:13 	-0.05 	1.Qc3 Qxd5 2.Qc7 Qd1+ 3.Kb2 Qd4+ 4.Kb1 Qg1+ 5.Kb2 Qd4+
6.Kb1 Qg1+ 7.Kb2 Qd4+ (17.310.407) 1247
 15/44	 0:30 	-0.05 	1.Qc3 Qxd5 2.Qc7 Qd1+ 3.Kb2 Qd4+ 4.Kb1 Qg1+ 5.Kb2 Qd4+
6.Kb1 Qg1+ 7.Kb2 Qd4+ (38.602.764) 1276
 16/47	 0:52 	-0.05 	1.Qc3 Qxd5 2.Qc7 Qd1+ 3.Kb2 Qd4+ 4.Kb1 Qg1+ 5.Kb2 Qd4+
6.Kb1 Qg1+ 7.Kb2 Qd4+ (68.288.986) 1290
 17/51	 1:56 	+0.20++	1.Qc3 Qxd5 (151.757.527) 1301
 17/51	 2:15 	+0.20 	1.Qc3 Qxd5 2.Ra7 (175.891.586) 1301
 17/51	 3:00 	+0.21++	1.Ra7 (234.812.457) 1302
 17/51	 3:05 	+0.56++	1.Ra7 (243.081.587) 1307
 17/51	 4:56 	+2.92 	1.Ra7 Bb7 (388.402.782) 1309
 18/52	 5:47 	+3.17++	1.Ra7 Bb7 (448.442.033) 1291
 18/52	 6:01 	+3.67++	1.Ra7 Bb7 (466.417.533) 1290
 18/54	 7:04 	+5.78 	1.Ra7 Bb7 2.Rxb7 Qxd5 3.Rb6 a5 4.Ra6 Ra8 5.Qe3 Rxa6 6.Kb2
axb4 7.axb4 Qa2+ 8.Kxa2 Kxb4+ 9.Kb2 Rc6 10.Bf1 Ka5 11.Qa7+ Ra6 12.Qc5 Rb8
13.Qc3+ (545.449.799) 1284
best move: Re7-a7 time: 8:34.078 min  n/s: 1.276.328  CPU 199.7%   n/s(1CPU):
639.122  nodes: 656.092.982



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