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Subject: Re: Fruit commercial

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 13:45:38 09/16/05

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On September 16, 2005 at 15:52:54, Ryan B. wrote:

>On September 16, 2005 at 14:35:17, Uri Blass wrote:
>
>>On September 16, 2005 at 14:25:01, Ryan B. wrote:
>>
>>>I do not think the so called bug hurts play strength, just the shown output from
>>>what I can tell.  Personaly I don't care what the output is once the outcome is
>>>already decided anyway.
>>
>>As a programmer I am sure that Fruit2.1 has bugs that are not about the shown
>>output.
>>
>>For example it has problems to solve Fine70 and cannot solve it fast like other
>>programs.
>>
>>I also know that it extends too much because it has no partial extensions and it
>>can find the famous mate in 30 that is at Ed's site at depth 1 and it means that
>>it also extend stupid lines if long sequences of check single reply lead to
>>nothing.
>>
>>Uri
>
>Not having fractal ply is not a bug it is a simple to add feature that has not
>been added yet.  An extention limit is also somthing that is a feature to be
>added, not a bug.  I am not saying Fruit is bug free but it is good enough to
>sell in my opinion and has a very stable search.


I agree and I plan to buy it in any case.
I only asked Fabien some questions.

I remember that Fabien admitted that Fruit has search bugs and he mentioned that
it does not solve fast Fine70 because of one of the bugs.

I guess that by fabien's standards the fact that he still did not add some
feature is a bug.

  I have seen Shredder prune out
>a Rook for Pawn sac that caused it to miss its move to prevent checkmate.  Even
>though Fruit, Crafty, and Scorpio all saw the move right away I do not consider
>Shredder to have a buggy search. No chess program does every move right.

I agree that other functions also do not do everything right.

Uri



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