Author: ALI MIRAFZALI
Date: 14:10:00 09/17/05
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On September 17, 2005 at 13:42:07, Albert Silver wrote: >On September 17, 2005 at 10:04:32, ALI MIRAFZALI wrote: > >>Hyatt has claimed many times that a Nodes Per Second Factor of one thousand >>times would not be overcome by the program with the less Nodes per second.In >>this Experiment it was shown conclusively that this is false .Although I played >>4 games ,I do not think the result would have been different if I had played a >>hundred more.Time Control 40 MOVES IN 2 HOURS followed by sudden death in 1 >>hour.Hardware: GNU CHESS 4.11 a program from 1996 ran a celeron 1.8 Gig machine >>;Chess Tiger on Palm ran on the Palm Tungten E.NODES PER SECOND:ON THE >>AVERAGE:CHESSTIGER ON PALM 500 per second ,GNU CHESS 4.11 500000 per second on >>the celeron 1.8 Gig.1000X DIFFERENCE.Hyatt and some other people have always >>argued about the supremecy of DeepBlue based on its speed.I think these days >>these arguments are false;and Speed does not mean as much as it used to.Deep >>blue would be crushed by todays program's.A lot of STRENGTH is EVALUATION >>FUNCTION.Take a look at these games: >>Match ended in 2-2 draw. > >The idea of testing this is certainly interesting but the conditions seem rather >dubious IMHO. For one thing, 4 games really is COMPLETELY meaningless, andwith >all due respect to claim you don't think the result could have been different >shows how much you don't understand this. > >BTW, does Tiger really only get 500 nodes per second on your Palm? That seems >ridiculously low. I don't have Tiger, nor a Palm for that matter, but on my Dell >Pocket PC at 624MHz, I get about 50,000 nps on average for Fruit 2.1. > >Note that if one is to believe the results of Hiarcs site >(http://www.hiarcs.com/phresults.htm), Tiger on the Palm has inordinately bad >results (they claim it plays over 400 points worse than Hiarcs on identical >hardware, which is HUGE), so perhaps it isn't the ideal choice. > > Albert Yes indeed Tiger does get 500 Nps on the palm Tungsten E.Note that it is Hyatt's claim that I am disproving.According to him a NPS of 1000X factor would be impossible to overcome even in 4 games
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