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Subject: Re: An Experiment that disproves Hyatt's 1000X NPS Theory

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 00:18:55 09/18/05

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On September 17, 2005 at 21:48:01, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>On September 17, 2005 at 10:04:32, ALI MIRAFZALI wrote:
>
>>Hyatt has claimed many times that a Nodes Per Second Factor of one thousand
>>times would not be overcome by the program with the less Nodes per second.In
>>this Experiment it was shown conclusively that this is false .Although I played
>>4 games ,I do not think the result would have been different if I had played a
>>hundred more.Time Control 40 MOVES IN 2 HOURS followed by sudden death in 1
>>hour.Hardware: GNU CHESS 4.11 a program from 1996 ran a celeron 1.8 Gig machine
>>;Chess Tiger on Palm ran on the Palm Tungten E.NODES PER SECOND:ON THE
>>AVERAGE:CHESSTIGER ON PALM 500 per second ,GNU CHESS 4.11 500000 per second on
>>the celeron 1.8 Gig.1000X DIFFERENCE.Hyatt and some other people have always
>>argued about the supremecy of DeepBlue based on its speed.I think these days
>>these arguments are false;and Speed does not mean as much as it used to.Deep
>>blue would be crushed by todays program's.A lot of STRENGTH is EVALUATION
>>FUNCTION.Take a look at these games:
>>Match ended in 2-2 draw.
>>
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>If you want to quote me, get it _right_.
>
>Nowhere will you find me saying "a lousy program running 1000x faster is better
>than a good program."
>
>So maybe it isn't "hyatt" that makes false statements.  What I _did_ say was
>that given two programs that are "reasonable" if you run one of them 1000x
>faster, that is an _overwhelming_ advantage.

I agree

Note only that reasonable program of today may be lousy program in the future
and I guess that we are going to see faster progress in software in the near
future thanks to the source code of Fruit2.1

Uri



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