Author: Uri Blass
Date: 05:37:29 09/18/05
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On September 18, 2005 at 08:30:01, Jaime Benito de Valle Ruiz wrote:
>On September 18, 2005 at 06:51:21, Eduard Nemeth wrote:
>
>>[Event "Wertungspartie, 16m + 0s"]
>>[Site "Maschinen A"]
>>[Date "2005.09.17"]
>>[Round "?"]
>>[White "ToTuTa, Toga MasterEdition"]
>>[Black "Wolkenlos, Junior 8"]
>>[Result "1/2-1/2"]
>>[ECO "A30"]
>>[WhiteElo "2449"]
>>[BlackElo "2353"]
>>[PlyCount "118"]
>>[EventDate "2005.09.17"]
>>[TimeControl "960"]
>>
>>1. Nf3 {0} Nf6 {0} 2. c4 {0} c5 {0} 3. a3 {0} Nc6 {0.09/14 23} 4. Nc3 {
>>-0.02/15 37} d5 {0.05/15 8} 5. cxd5 {0.37/15 32} Nxd5 {0.10/14 1} 6. e4 {
>>0.39/15 30} Nc7 {0.01/13 20} 7. Bc4 {0.39/13 22} Be6 {-0.05/13 5} 8. Qb3 {
>>0.24/15 42} Bxc4 {-0.14/15 1} 9. Qxc4 {0.19/13 14} e6 {-0.13/14 18} 10. O-O {
>>0.37/15 39} a6 {-0.11/14 2} 11. d3 {0.46/14 22} b5 {-0.13/15 69} 12. Qb3 {
>>0.48/16 0} Be7 {0.01/15 35} 13. Ne2 {0.55/14 52} O-O {-0.08/15 36} 14. Be3 {
>>0.44/15 0} e5 {0.35/14 45} 15. a4 {0.36/13 24} Rb8 {-0.11/13 31} 16. Ng3 {
>>0.22/14 0} g6 {-0.19/13 24} 17. axb5 {0.22/14 0} Rxb5 {-0.23/12 18} 18. Qc3 {
>>Wolkenlos,Junior 8 bietet Remis 0.15/14 4} Qd6 {-0.25/14 23} 19. Rfd1 {
>>-0.05/14 2} Rd8 {-0.39/13 13} 20. Ra4 {-0.13/13 25} Rb6 {-0.50/13 28} 21. Qa3 {
>>-0.14/13 24} Qe6 {-0.84/12 13} 22. Nd2 {-0.31/14 44} Nb5 {-0.68/14 1} 23. Qa1 {
>>-0.29/15 20} Nb4 {-0.65/13 5} 24. Rxb4 {0.00/15 16} cxb4 {-0.47/13 15} 25. Bxb6
>>{0.01/16 5} Qxb6 {-0.47/12 1} 26. Nc4 {0.00/16 15} Qf6 {-0.54/14 6} 27. Nf1 {
>>-0.19/15 18} Nd4 {-0.27/13 15} 28. Nfe3 {-0.21/15 12} Ne2+ {-0.02/12 13} 29.
>>Kf1 {-0.21/15 5} Nf4 {-0.51/13 12} 30. Qa4 {-0.08/14 0} h5 {-0.51/12 11} 31. g3
>>{-0.16/14 24} Nh3 {-0.51/14 1} 32. Qc2 {0.25/14 17} Bc5 {-0.49/14 10} 33. Kg2 {
>>0.26/14 1} Ng5 {-0.48/13 19} 34. Qe2 {0.18/15 0} Qe6 {-0.50/12 10} 35. Ra1 {
>>0.47/13 17} h4 {-0.53/12 20} 36. Ng4 {0.65/13 11} h3+ {-0.52/12 11} 37. Kh1 {
>>0.32/15 6} f6 {-0.02/13 23} 38. f4 {0.31/15 8} Nf7 {-0.03/13 8} 39. Rc1 {
>>0.22/14 15} Bd4 {-0.49/13 17} 40. Nge3 {0.31/14 14} f5 {-0.63/13 15} 41. Nc2 {
>>0.05/13 10} Bc5 {-1.06/12 9} 42. Ne1 {0.09/13 2} exf4 {-0.98/12 19} 43. gxf4 {
>>0.00/14 0} fxe4 {-0.89/12 11} 44. dxe4 {-0.26/14 15} Rc8 {-0.78/10 7} 45. Nd2 {
>>0.40/13 13} Rc6 {-0.60/11 9} 46. Ndf3 {0.36/12 7} Ba7 {-0.25/11 9} 47. Ra1 {
>>0.22/13 12} b3 {-0.32/11 9} 48. e5 {0.00/13 12} Rc4 {-0.32/13 1} 49. Qd2 {
>>0.00/14 10} Qg4 {-1.40/12 11} 50. Qe2 {-1.05/14 14} Rxf4 {-1.31/13 1} 51. e6 {
>>-1.11/14 7} Nd6 {-1.52/12 3} 52. Rxa6 {-1.33/14 8} Re4 {-2.10/11 4} 53. Qf1 {
>>-1.79/14 2} Qf5 {-1.91/11 3} 54. Qd3 {-1.86/14 6} Qxe6 {-1.88/11 16} 55. Rxa7 {
>>-1.93/14 15} Rxe1+ {-10.08/11 6} 56. Ng1 {-1.93/14 2} Qe4+ {-5.91/11 7} 57.
>>Qxe4 {-0.38/15 7} Nxe4 {-6.79/17 1} 58. Rg7+ {0.00/25 7} Kh8 {-3.22/15 5} 59.
>>Rh7+ {0.00/27 7} Kxh7 {0.00/61 4} 1/2-1/2
>>
>>
>>4: ToTuTa,T - Wolkenlos,J, Wertungspartie, 16m + 0s 2005
>>6k1/R7/6p1/8/4n3/1p5p/1P5P/4r1NK w - - 0 1
>>
>>
>>[D]6k1/R7/6p1/8/4n3/1p5p/1P5P/4r1NK w - - 0 1
>>
>>Analysis by Junior 8:
>>
>>58.Ta8+ Kf7 59.Ta7+ Kf6 60.Ta6+ Kg5 61.Ta5+ Kh4 62.Ta4 g5 63.Td4 g4 64.Txe4 Txe4
>>65.Se2 Txe2 66.Kg1 g3 67.Kf1
>>-+ (-16.64) Tiefe: 20 00:00:15 4826kN, tb=177
>>
>>(Nemeth, Privat 18.09.2005)
>>
>>COOOL ! :-))))
>>
>>Eduard.
>>
>>My World:
>>
>>http://www.beepworld.de/members37/computerschach/
>
>
>Does that mean that Junior believes that white is loosing after a 20 ply
>analysis? Looks like a dead draw to me
>
>Regards,
>
> Jaime
This is not a question of depth.
Junior does not evaluate stalemate as draw.
As far as I know it continues the search to position that the king is captured
and decide at that point if it is a draw or not a draw.
There are cases when it evaluates that there was checkmate inspite of the fact
that there was a stalemate.
I hope that Junior is going to miss a win in the next world championship because
of that behaviour(otherwise it seems that there is no chance that Amir is going
to fix it because he knows about the problem for a long time and does not fix
it).
Uri
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