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Subject: Re: Cray and supercomputers (kinda long)

Author: Vincent Diepeveen

Date: 17:19:31 09/20/05

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On September 20, 2005 at 16:38:51, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>On September 20, 2005 at 15:34:42, Joshua Shriver wrote:
>
>>Thanks for the read, it was interesting.
>>
>>-Josh
>
>
>And a bit misleading.  Vendors don't push one interconnect over another, just
>because they "make more money".  They make more money on the more expensive
>interconnects.  The old cLAN switch we have (8 ports) cost over $16,000 for the
>switch alone, plus another $1K+ per PCI card to connect.  Dell had cLAN,
>myrinet, gigabit, and 100mbit options.  Pay your money and take your chances.

>Myrinet is the favorite today due only to the cost to the end-user, if they can
>afford that over gigabit ethernet which is the least expensive option around,
>and the worst latency.

Actually this shows how knowledgeable you are on network cards and how business
works. If people want a cluster, you sell of course with the cheapest components
you got, if they are happy with it.

Yes this is why myri is pushed, because 99% of all academics don't even know
there is other networks faster than myri for hardly any extra price.

As the routing system for big clusters is same price. Actually ask some IBM
salesman here. He'll tell you that he will sell a cluster regardless of which
network the customer want, just default they use myri.

Earnings *does* matter.

>Price is dictated by the end-user's pocketbook, not by what the vendor wants to
>sell.  Don't believe anything else.



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