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Subject: Re: Please Some Explanations for Comparisons

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 20:49:36 09/20/05

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On September 19, 2005 at 16:16:56, Rolf Tueschen wrote:

>thanks very much, Bob, for these clarifications, which should now give enough
>informations for those who are really interested and who know what you are
>talking about. more than once I saw unknown figures/names insult you or make you
>look like an idiot and I thought about one single possibility: that people who
>have an axe to grind with you but are too shy (or put your wording here) to show
>up with their real name. it's so obvious when even I as a lay can smell the rat.
>it's really an adventure to watch how you keep always cool and give the endless
>explanations! keep gong on this way!
>
>BTW if by chance you had some extra time you really should add a few comments in
>one of your messages about the differences of academic ACM tournaments and now
>events with real business machines competing. What is your impression? into what
>direction is moral going? is it still intellectual fun or is it a pain for you
>to watch when competitors avoid clear draws and prefer to lose like Jonny in
>Graz? please try to elaborate at some future moment to allow the young people
>here to learn something ´from the past that might have had a higher level than
>what we see today.


I greatly enjoyed the old ACM events.  We all sat around and talked about new
ideas we developed for that year.  And we all then left with new ideas to try
for the next year.  The "openness" made it a lot of fun.  I talked with Dave
Slate, Ken Thompson, Fred Schwartz, Tom Truscott, Burt Wendroff, Kathe
Spracklen, and lots of others I am forgetting about, several times a year via
phone, exchanging ideas and so forth.

Today that is no longer the case.  In fact, today, once someone gets a good
result, next thing you know they have become one of the commercial guys in
fact...

When "money" came to the events, at the start of the WMCCC events, I was glad I
was not involved on the bottom of the food chain (the micros).  There were more
instances of cheating, spying, stealing, twisting the rules, you-name-it, all to
get a "19xx WMCCC winner" label on the outside of the box...  The commercial
companies are still way more about posturing than about anything else, since
posturing leads to hopefully increased sales.  I'm not involved, and I won't
ever be, so it really doesn't matter that much to me, from the amateur side of
things...

Money can be a big driving force.  And a big corrupting one...



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