Author: Eduard Nemeth
Date: 13:55:12 09/22/05
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On September 22, 2005 at 14:46:26, Kurt Utzinger wrote:
>On September 22, 2005 at 14:30:26, Torstein Hall wrote:
>
>>On September 22, 2005 at 11:59:01, Henrik Dinesen wrote:
>>
>>>On September 22, 2005 at 11:52:29, Eduard Nemeth wrote:
>>>
>>>>On September 22, 2005 at 09:38:33, Eduard Nemeth wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>I see all in all at time on playchess, more lost games of Fritz 9 than other
>>>>engines (I can post more games too).
>>>
>>>Hi Eduard,
>>>
>>>If that continues, we have no alternative than to believe the Chessbase Fritz 9
>>>propaganda...
>>>
>>>Regards
>>>Henrik
>>
>>Its hard to say, because the deep programs normally has a much better hardware
>>than the single processor programs
>>Torstein
>
>
> Hi Torstein
> Fully agreed, a lot of games on the playchess server
> do not say much in view of the huge difference of
> hardware used. What can we say about a game between
> Fritz 9 on Athlon 1.3 vs Deep Shredder 9 on AMD Dual
> Core 4600+ and can the person using the fast PC be
> proud about a win and the high Elo rating: ridiculous
> Best regards
> Kurt
Kurt, das ist so nicht ganz zu halten, denn ich spiele mit nur einem P3 600 MHz
auf playchess, und soviel weniger als ein Fritz 9 auf sagen wir 2 GHz hole ich
auch, ja nicht nur das, ich gewinne sogar mit Fritz 8 gegen Fritz 9 (auf etwa 3
GHz laufend) wie diese Partie belegt:
[Event "Wertungspartie, 3m + 0s"]
[Site "?"]
[Date "2005.??.??"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Solist, Fritz 8"]
[Black "JujumasterHG, Fritz 9"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "D97"]
[WhiteElo "2380"]
[BlackElo "2485"]
[PlyCount "123"]
[EventDate "2005.??.??"]
1. d4 {0} Nf6 {0} 2. c4 {0} g6 {0} 3. Nf3 {(Sc3) 0} Bg7 {0} 4. Nc3 {0} d5 {0}
5. Qb3 {0} dxc4 {0} 6. Qxc4 {0} O-O {0} 7. e4 {0} a6 {0} 8. e5 {0} b5 {0} 9.
Qb3 {0} Nfd7 {0} 10. Be3 {(h4) 0} c5 {0} 11. e6 {0} cxd4 {0} 12. exd7 {
(Sxd4) 1.25/9 4} dxe3 {0} 13. dxc8=Q {1.15/8 3} exf2+ {0.88/10 8} 14. Kxf2 {
1.06/11 0} Qb6+ {0.88/9 8} 15. Kg3 {1.03/10 0} Rxc8 {0.88/8 3} 16. Kh3 {
(Te1) 1.03/8 4} Rc5 {0.36/8 4} 17. Ne4 {(g3) 1.09/8 4} Rh5+ {0.00/8 4} 18. Kg3
{0.93/9 0} Qc7+ {0.28/9 12} 19. Kf2 {Solist,Fritz 8 bietet Remis 1.03/9 5} Qa7+
{0.02/8 2} 20. Qe3 {1.25/11 11} Qxe3+ {0.39/10 0} 21. Kxe3 {1.28/9 1} Bxb2 {
0.38/8 4} 22. Rd1 {(Tb1) 1.25/10 1} f5 {0.62/8 5} 23. Rd8+ {1.31/9 0} Kg7 {
0.87/10 3} 24. Nf2 {(Ld3) 1.15/9 2} Bc3 {-0.11/8 3} 25. Nd3 {(Tc8) 1.31/9 7} e5
{0.45/8 3} 26. Rc8 {(Kf2) 1.53/9 5} f4+ {0.77/8 4} 27. Ke4 {(Kf2) 2.34/10 2}
Ba5 {2.63/8 9} 28. Nfxe5 {3.37/9 3} f3 {3.23/7 0} 29. Nc6 {(Kxf3) 3.53/8 2}
Nxc6 {3.24/8 2} 30. Rxa8 {3.06/8 2} Rh4+ {3.22/8 3} 31. Kd5 {(Kxf3) 3.15/9 0}
Ne7+ {3.22/7 5} 32. Ke6 {3.31/10 0} Re4+ {3.22/7 11} 33. Kd7 {3.37/11 0} fxg2 {
3.39/6 5} 34. Bxg2 {3.37/11 0} Rd4+ {3.39/8 2} 35. Kxe7 {3.47/11 0} Rxd3 {
3.41/9 3} 36. Rxa6 {(Ke6) 3.78/10 5} Ra3 {2.70/9 2} 37. Kd7 {4.31/10 1} Rxa2 {
2.89/10 4} 38. Bd5 {4.50/11 0} Rd2 {2.89/9 3} 39. Rxa5 {4.56/11 2} Rxd5+ {
2.92/10 0} 40. Kc6 {4.56/11 2} Rd2 {2.94/10 0} 41. Rxb5 {4.62/9 2} Kh6 {
3.02/9 3} 42. h4 {4.75/11 4} Rd4 {3.08/9 0} 43. h5 {(Tb7) 5.18/10 4} Rd8 {
3.94/9 6} 44. Rb6 {(hxg6+) 5.62/9 5} Kg5 {3.69/9 3} 45. hxg6 {6.47/10 0} hxg6 {
3.69/8 3} 46. Rg1+ {#23/7 0} Kf5 {3.71/9 1} 47. Rxg6 {#22/6 0} Rd1 {1} 48. Kc7
{(Td6) 3.75/9 0} Rc1+ {3} 49. Rgc6 {3.80/9 0} Ra1 {1} 50. Rb4 {(Tf6+) 3.80/9 0}
Rf1 {4} 51. Rc5+ {6.65/10 0} Kg6 {2} 52. Rb6+ {3.88/8 0} Kg7 {1} 53. Rd5 {
(Kb8) 6.50/10 0} Rf8 {2} 54. Rd7+ {6.69/9 0} Kg8 {1} 55. Rb8 {(Tg6+) #10/8 0}
Rxb8 {0} 56. Kxb8 {#7/9 0} Kf8 {0} 57. Kc7 {#6/1 0} Ke8 {0} 58. Kd6 {
(Kc6) #5/1 0} Kf8 {0} 59. Ke6 {#5/1 0} Ke8 {0} 60. Rd5 {(Kd6) #3/1 0} Kf8 {0}
61. Rg5 {#3/1 0} Ke8 {0} 62. Rg8# {(Lag: Av=0.27s, max=0.8s) #2/1 0} 1-0
Man sieht hier eklatante Schwächen im Blitzspiel bei Fritz 9, aber auf Stufen
größer 60m habe ich auch leider nur Niederlagen von Fritz 9 gesichtet, schau
nach.
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