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Subject: Re: DETAILS, I WANT DETAILS !!!

Author: Eugene Nalimov

Date: 20:48:27 03/04/99

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On March 04, 1999 at 23:04:37, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>On March 04, 1999 at 19:22:50, Mark Ryan wrote:
>
>>Greetings:  obviously speed is important in computer chess.  Please keep us all
>>up to date on your knowledge of the fastest available PCs.  Your input is
>>valuable, and we are reading it all with great interest.
>>
>>Thanks,
>>Mark
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>I think that the PIII, for a while, is not going to be real interesting for
>chess programs.  the extra 50mhz is not real noticable...  and the new hardware
>instructions are not being used in any chess engines so far.  So you can expect
>a nominal improvement based on the clock frequency, but nothing else.  Maybe
>when MSVC 7 comes out, it will produce the new instructions when they can be
>useful and we might see more performance.  At present, the PII/450 has to be
>the best deal.  Or the Celeron at 450...
>

Based on price/performance, the sure winner is dual PII/350
(or dual Celeron/450, if you can enable SMP there - there are
instructions on the web how to do that, but you must be able
to do some soldering; I myself unable).

Eugene

>>
>>On March 04, 1999 at 03:28:08, Baldomero Garcia, Jr. wrote:
>>
>>>I saw at the Computer Shopper site that the new Pentium III 500 Mhz machines
>>>were available now.
>>>I was wondering how much faster they were compared to the PII 450 Mhz.  I
>>>visited the Byte Online
>>>web site, and basically, the answer was that in some cases, the PIII 500 were
>>>20% faster (which is
>>>significant), while in some others the PII 450 were actually faster.  So, I
>>>guess if you're looking for
>>>a faster processor for your computer programs, it'd be best to wait for a faster
>>>computer if you already
>>>have a PII 450.  Not only that, considering the price drop of PII 450's, that
>>>would be a better buy if
>>>you have something slower.
>>>
>>>I also looked at the Macintosh side of the house.  I'm not a big fan of
>>>Macintosh, even though I own one.
>>>Apparently, Apple brags that the new G3 400 Mhz is faster than the PII 450 Mhz,
>>>at least in the integer
>>>test conducted by Byte magazine.  The problem is, there are not a lot of
>>>computer chess programs available
>>>for the Mac.  I think HIARCS is the only commercial one, while Mac Chess 5.0 and
>>>Crafty (Mac version)
>>>are available as freeware.  I'm not sure how strong Chessmaster 4000 for the Mac
>>>is.
>>>
>>>In any case, it'd be interesting to see the rating lists from the SSDF include
>>>faster processors than the aging
>>>P200.  Of course, money is the big issue in upgrading computers, and I'm not
>>>sure when we should expect
>>>the upgrades to happen.



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