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Subject: Re: Some vindications concerning the activation-constraint of Fruit

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 22:48:53 09/26/05

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On September 27, 2005 at 01:35:46, Lance Perkins wrote:

>On September 27, 2005 at 00:32:32, Robert Hollay wrote:
>
>>On September 26, 2005 at 23:46:59, angela milazzo wrote:
>>
>>>Dear Sirs;
>>>
>>>   Are you talking about a dongle? If so I nor my friends will buy your product.
>>>I will not attach such a device to mine or any one else's machine, they are
>>>hideous. You are just making it tougher on your legitimate customers, Crackers
>>>will crack that dongle despite whatever fool has convinced Fabien otherwise.
>>>
>>>
>>>   You know I have been downloading and playing the Winboard engines for many
>>>years. I am appalled by the fact that as soon as a program takes second place in
>>>some tournament it immediately goes commercial. For how many years was Crafty
>>>the number one program and Bob remained freeware. I and some other users will
>>>stick with the current freeware engines knowing that by this time next year some
>>>other new engine will be the one to beat.
>>>
>>>Thanks,
>>>Angela
>>
>> Nobody forces you to buy commercial ones. I'm using only freeware engines too.
>>Still, I would buy Fruit just to help Fabien in further development,
>>but I cannot afford investments of not vital importance now.
>>Btw, I have a feeling that Fruit2.2 is the "No.1" engine today, it's second
>>place is only due to the hardware differences in the WCCC tournament.
>>
>>Robert
>
>I think Zappa is the Number 1 chess engine today, as it demonstrated in the last
>WCCC. Not Fruit. The difference is not hardware. Its sofware. The Fruit software
>does not know how to use multiple processors. The Zappa software does. Lets give
>Fruit and Zappa their own 16-cpu machines to run on - they now run on identical
>hardware. Which do you think will win most games?
>
>Lets say you have an engine with very smart search and well-tuned evaluation.
>But you wrote that in Z80 assembly. The best Z80 processor tops at 16mhz. Is
>that the best engine? That thing will get trashed by engines with simpler search
>and eval but is written for x86 architecture and runs on 3Ghz machines.

There is a difference.

no customer or almost no customer is using 16mhz machine.
A lot of customers are using machines with single processor so from the point of
view of many customers Fruit may be the best engine.

Uri



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