Author: Lance Perkins
Date: 00:27:54 09/27/05
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On September 27, 2005 at 01:48:53, Uri Blass wrote: >On September 27, 2005 at 01:35:46, Lance Perkins wrote: > >>On September 27, 2005 at 00:32:32, Robert Hollay wrote: >> >>>On September 26, 2005 at 23:46:59, angela milazzo wrote: >>> >>>>Dear Sirs; >>>> >>>> Are you talking about a dongle? If so I nor my friends will buy your product. >>>>I will not attach such a device to mine or any one else's machine, they are >>>>hideous. You are just making it tougher on your legitimate customers, Crackers >>>>will crack that dongle despite whatever fool has convinced Fabien otherwise. >>>> >>>> >>>> You know I have been downloading and playing the Winboard engines for many >>>>years. I am appalled by the fact that as soon as a program takes second place in >>>>some tournament it immediately goes commercial. For how many years was Crafty >>>>the number one program and Bob remained freeware. I and some other users will >>>>stick with the current freeware engines knowing that by this time next year some >>>>other new engine will be the one to beat. >>>> >>>>Thanks, >>>>Angela >>> >>> Nobody forces you to buy commercial ones. I'm using only freeware engines too. >>>Still, I would buy Fruit just to help Fabien in further development, >>>but I cannot afford investments of not vital importance now. >>>Btw, I have a feeling that Fruit2.2 is the "No.1" engine today, it's second >>>place is only due to the hardware differences in the WCCC tournament. >>> >>>Robert >> >>I think Zappa is the Number 1 chess engine today, as it demonstrated in the last >>WCCC. Not Fruit. The difference is not hardware. Its sofware. The Fruit software >>does not know how to use multiple processors. The Zappa software does. Lets give >>Fruit and Zappa their own 16-cpu machines to run on - they now run on identical >>hardware. Which do you think will win most games? >> >>Lets say you have an engine with very smart search and well-tuned evaluation. >>But you wrote that in Z80 assembly. The best Z80 processor tops at 16mhz. Is >>that the best engine? That thing will get trashed by engines with simpler search >>and eval but is written for x86 architecture and runs on 3Ghz machines. > >There is a difference. > >no customer or almost no customer is using 16mhz machine. >A lot of customers are using machines with single processor so from the point of >view of many customers Fruit may be the best engine. > >Uri If you put it that way, then I agree. Perhaps we can say that Fruit is the best engine on single-cpu machines. And then again, I don't know that for sure. I dont know of a match between the WCC version of Zappa and Fruit WCC on equal 1-cpu platform.
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