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Subject: Re: About a mistake of Fruit WCCC

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 07:04:27 09/27/05

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On September 27, 2005 at 09:59:20, Günther Simon wrote:

>On September 27, 2005 at 06:56:04, Uri Blass wrote:
>
>>I downloaded the games of Fritz9 to see how it beat FruitWCCC
>
>_Where_ did you download the game, I miss all information about
>this in your message and in the pgn headers?

I donloaded Fritz9 games in
http://www.husvankempen.de/nunn/downloads.htm
>
>>
>>Here is one of them
>>
>>[Event "20'/40"]
>>[Site "?"]
>>[Date "2005.09.23"]
>>[Round "6"]
>>[White "Fritz 9"]
>>[Black "Fruit WCCC'05"]
>>[Result "1-0"]
>>[ECO "A90"]
>>[Annotator "0.19;-0.01"]
>>[PlyCount "87"]
>>[EventDate "2005.??.??"]
>>[TimeControl "40/1200:0"]
>>
>>{GenuineIntel 1598 MHz W=13.6 ply; 1.022kN/s B=14.1 ply; 546kN/s} 1. d4 f5 2.
>>g3 Nf6 3. Bg2 e6 4. c4 c6 5. Nf3 d5 6. O-O Bd6 7. b3 Qe7 8. Bb2 O-O {
>>Beide letzter Buchzug} 9. Ne5 {0.19/12 64} Nbd7 {(b6) -0.01/13 36} 10. Qd3 {
>>(f4) 0.29/12 66} Ne4 {(a5) -0.07/13 45} 11. f3 {(f4) 0.26/13 52} Nec5 {
>>(Nxe5) -0.14/14 35} 12. Qe3 {0.31/14 75} Nxe5 {-0.13/14 22} 13. dxe5 {
>>0.38/13 30} Bc7 {-0.16/14 39} 14. h3 {(Kh1) 0.16/12 39} dxc4 {-0.65/12 22} 15.
>>Nd2 {0.22/14 40} b5 {(f4) -0.81/14 69} 16. Bd4 {0.35/12 24} Na6 {-0.75/14 30}
>>17. bxc4 {(f4) 0.29/13 51} Rd8 {-0.73/15 60} 18. c5 {0.13/14 38} Nb4 {
>>-0.66/15 56} 19. Qc3 {(Rfc1) -0.04/14 35} Nd5 {-0.89/15 34} 20. Qd3 {
>>(Qb2) 0.00/14 41} f4 {(Nb4) -1.23/14 54} 21. Ne4 {-0.07/13 36} a5 {
>>(b4) -1.23/13 26} 22. Qd2 {(Kh2) -0.10/13 44} fxg3 {(Ne3) -1.53/14 40} 23. f4 {
>>(Nxg3) 0.49/14 27} a4 {(Qh4) -0.74/13 49} 24. e3 {0.95/13 38} Kh8 {
>>(a3) -0.65/13 47} 25. Rf3 {(Nxg3) 1.41/13 24} Ba5 {-0.46/13 27} 26. Qc2 {
>>1.50/13 32} Ra7 {(Ba6) -0.23/13 48} 27. Rxg3 {2.04/13 33} Qh4 {0.14/13 63} 28.
>>Rg4 {(Kh2) 2.02/14 33} Nb4 {(Qh6) 0.13/13 19} 29. Qd2 {(Qe2) 2.32/14 58} Qe7 {
>>0.16/15 30} 30. Nd6 {2.34/13 25} Nd5 {0.36/14 43} 31. Qf2 {(Qc2) 2.29/12 37}
>>Ba6 {0.40/12 23} 32. Kh2 {(a3) 2.55/13 100} Qf8 {(b4) 0.67/12 29} 33. e4 {
>>(Rg1) 2.70/12 26} Nc7 {(Ne7) 1.07/13 26} 34. a3 {(Qh4) 2.57/12 18} Rd7 {
>>(Ne8) 1.11/13 21} 35. f5 {(Qh4) 3.38/13 24} Ra8 {(Qg8) 1.15/14 28} 36. f6 {
>>(Qh4) 3.50/12 16} g6 {(Rb8) 2.19/14 55} 37. Qh4 {3.96/13 18} Bd2 {2.34/14 29}
>>38. Rxg6 {4.55/13 30} b4 {3.45/14 45} 39. Bf1 {(Rd1) 4.35/11 14} Ra7 {
>>3.76/11 28} 40. Bxa6 {5.64/10 5} Nxa6 {5.68/11 20} 41. Rf1 {(Rag1) 8.71/13 39}
>>Rf7 {6.52/12 27} 42. Nxf7+ {12.23/15 42} Rxf7 {10.12/15 37} 43. Rg7 {
>>15.29/15 25} h6 {11.16/16 25} 44. Rfg1 {(Qh5) 15.88/15 22} 1-0
>>
>>I wonder how fruit WCCC played fxg3 with score of 1.53 pawns for black when
>>Fruit2.1 that is supposed to be weaker does not like that move and never get
>>scores that are close to 1.53(I do not think that a small bonus for the side to
>>move can be the reason for it)
>>
>>Note that the time control suggest that the game was played on hardware that is
>>twice faster than 2 ghz so it also seems that fruit WCCC did not search very
>>deep because Fruit2.1 with clean hash could get depth 14 in 28 seconds on A3000
>>when in the pgn it needed 40 seconds when I expected Fruit WCCC to do it faster
>>thanks to pruning that was added.
>
>I don't understand your sentence above, why does the time control suggest
>anything about hardware?
>The pgn itself says 1.598 GHz instead of twice as fast as 2Ghz?

I know that CEGT is played in time control that is equivalent to 40/40 on 2 ghz
PIV machines so I assumed that 20/40 should be played only on hardware that is
twice faster than PIV 2 ghz.

Uri



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