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Subject: Re: Perhaps Ideas by Toga 1.0 implement in Fruit WCCC ? :-)

Author: Eduard Nemeth

Date: 09:56:21 09/27/05

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On September 27, 2005 at 06:56:04, Uri Blass wrote:

>I downloaded the games of Fritz9 to see how it beat FruitWCCC
>
>Here is one of them
>
>[Event "20'/40"]
>[Site "?"]
>[Date "2005.09.23"]
>[Round "6"]
>[White "Fritz 9"]
>[Black "Fruit WCCC'05"]
>[Result "1-0"]
>[ECO "A90"]
>[Annotator "0.19;-0.01"]
>[PlyCount "87"]
>[EventDate "2005.??.??"]
>[TimeControl "40/1200:0"]
>
>{GenuineIntel 1598 MHz W=13.6 ply; 1.022kN/s B=14.1 ply; 546kN/s} 1. d4 f5 2.
>g3 Nf6 3. Bg2 e6 4. c4 c6 5. Nf3 d5 6. O-O Bd6 7. b3 Qe7 8. Bb2 O-O {
>Beide letzter Buchzug} 9. Ne5 {0.19/12 64} Nbd7 {(b6) -0.01/13 36} 10. Qd3 {
>(f4) 0.29/12 66} Ne4 {(a5) -0.07/13 45} 11. f3 {(f4) 0.26/13 52} Nec5 {
>(Nxe5) -0.14/14 35} 12. Qe3 {0.31/14 75} Nxe5 {-0.13/14 22} 13. dxe5 {
>0.38/13 30} Bc7 {-0.16/14 39} 14. h3 {(Kh1) 0.16/12 39} dxc4 {-0.65/12 22} 15.
>Nd2 {0.22/14 40} b5 {(f4) -0.81/14 69} 16. Bd4 {0.35/12 24} Na6 {-0.75/14 30}
>17. bxc4 {(f4) 0.29/13 51} Rd8 {-0.73/15 60} 18. c5 {0.13/14 38} Nb4 {
>-0.66/15 56} 19. Qc3 {(Rfc1) -0.04/14 35} Nd5 {-0.89/15 34} 20. Qd3 {
>(Qb2) 0.00/14 41} f4 {(Nb4) -1.23/14 54} 21. Ne4 {-0.07/13 36} a5 {
>(b4) -1.23/13 26} 22. Qd2 {(Kh2) -0.10/13 44} fxg3 {(Ne3) -1.53/14 40} 23. f4 {
>(Nxg3) 0.49/14 27} a4 {(Qh4) -0.74/13 49} 24. e3 {0.95/13 38} Kh8 {
>(a3) -0.65/13 47} 25. Rf3 {(Nxg3) 1.41/13 24} Ba5 {-0.46/13 27} 26. Qc2 {
>1.50/13 32} Ra7 {(Ba6) -0.23/13 48} 27. Rxg3 {2.04/13 33} Qh4 {0.14/13 63} 28.
>Rg4 {(Kh2) 2.02/14 33} Nb4 {(Qh6) 0.13/13 19} 29. Qd2 {(Qe2) 2.32/14 58} Qe7 {
>0.16/15 30} 30. Nd6 {2.34/13 25} Nd5 {0.36/14 43} 31. Qf2 {(Qc2) 2.29/12 37}
>Ba6 {0.40/12 23} 32. Kh2 {(a3) 2.55/13 100} Qf8 {(b4) 0.67/12 29} 33. e4 {
>(Rg1) 2.70/12 26} Nc7 {(Ne7) 1.07/13 26} 34. a3 {(Qh4) 2.57/12 18} Rd7 {
>(Ne8) 1.11/13 21} 35. f5 {(Qh4) 3.38/13 24} Ra8 {(Qg8) 1.15/14 28} 36. f6 {
>(Qh4) 3.50/12 16} g6 {(Rb8) 2.19/14 55} 37. Qh4 {3.96/13 18} Bd2 {2.34/14 29}
>38. Rxg6 {4.55/13 30} b4 {3.45/14 45} 39. Bf1 {(Rd1) 4.35/11 14} Ra7 {
>3.76/11 28} 40. Bxa6 {5.64/10 5} Nxa6 {5.68/11 20} 41. Rf1 {(Rag1) 8.71/13 39}
>Rf7 {6.52/12 27} 42. Nxf7+ {12.23/15 42} Rxf7 {10.12/15 37} 43. Rg7 {
>15.29/15 25} h6 {11.16/16 25} 44. Rfg1 {(Qh5) 15.88/15 22} 1-0
>
>I wonder how fruit WCCC played fxg3 with score of 1.53 pawns for black when
>Fruit2.1 that is supposed to be weaker does not like that move and never get
>scores that are close to 1.53(I do not think that a small bonus for the side to
>move can be the reason for it)
>
>Note that the time control suggest that the game was played on hardware that is
>twice faster than 2 ghz so it also seems that fruit WCCC did not search very
>deep because Fruit2.1 with clean hash could get depth 14 in 28 seconds on A3000
>when in the pgn it needed 40 seconds when I expected Fruit WCCC to do it faster
>thanks to pruning that was added.
>
>
>
>Fritz 9 - Fruit WCCC'05, 20'/40 2005
>r1br2k1/2b1q1pp/2p1p3/ppPnP3/3BNp2/5PPP/P2QP1B1/R4RK1 b - - 0 1
>
>Analysis by Fruit 2.1:
>
>22...fxg3 23.Nxg3
>  µ  (-1.06)   Depth: 1/2   00:00:00
>22...fxg3 23.Nxg3 Bb7
>  µ  (-1.22)   Depth: 2/9   00:00:00
>22...fxg3 23.Nxg3 Bb7 24.Ne4
>  µ  (-0.90)   Depth: 3/9   00:00:00
>22...Ne3 23.gxf4 Nxf1 24.Kxf1
>  µ  (-1.22)   Depth: 3/9   00:00:00
>22...Ne3 23.gxf4 Nxf1 24.Kxf1 Kh8
>  µ  (-1.39)   Depth: 4/12   00:00:00
>22...Ne3 23.gxf4 Nxf1 24.Kxf1 Kh8 25.Rd1
>  µ  (-1.08)   Depth: 5/13   00:00:00
>22...Ne3 23.gxf4 Nxf1 24.Kxf1 Ba6 25.Rd1 b4
>  µ  (-1.32)   Depth: 6/15   00:00:00  35kN
>22...Ne3 23.gxf4 Nxf1 24.Kxf1 Rf8 25.Rd1 Qh4 26.e3
>  µ  (-1.16)   Depth: 7/20   00:00:00  76kN
>22...Ne3 23.gxf4 Nxf1 24.Kxf1 Ba6 25.Nd6 Rf8 26.Rd1 b4
>  µ  (-1.28)   Depth: 8/20   00:00:01  157kN
>22...Ne3 23.gxf4 Nxf1 24.Kxf1 b4 25.Nd6 Rf8 26.a3 b3 27.Rd1
>  µ  (-1.22)   Depth: 9/23   00:00:01  483kN
>22...Ne3 23.gxf4 Nxf1 24.Rxf1 b4 25.Nd6 Ba6 26.Rd1 Rd7 27.Kh2 Rf8
>  µ  (-1.23)   Depth: 10/23   00:00:01  883kN
>22...Ne3 23.gxf4 Nxf1 24.Rxf1 b4 25.Nd6 Ba6 26.Rd1 Rf8 27.Kh2 Kh8 28.e4
>  µ  (-1.19)   Depth: 11/24   00:00:02  1932kN
>22...Ne3 23.gxf4 Nxf1 24.Rxf1 b4 25.Rd1 Ba6 26.Nd6 Rf8 27.e4 Qh4 28.f5 exf5
>29.Nxf5
>  µ  (-1.28)   Depth: 12/31   00:00:05  4124kN
>22...Ne3 23.gxf4 Nxf1 24.Rxf1 b4 25.Rd1 Kh8 26.Nd6 g6 27.Kh2 Ba6 28.e4 Rd7
>29.Qc2
>  µ  (-1.15)   Depth: 13/31   00:00:11  9055kN
>22...Ne3 23.gxf4 Nxf1 24.Rxf1 b4 25.Rd1 Kh8 26.Nd6 g6 27.Kh2 Ba6 28.e4 Rd7 29.f5
>exf5 30.exf5 gxf5
>  µ  (-1.17)   Depth: 14/34   00:00:28  22738kN
>22...Ne3 23.gxf4 Nxf1 24.Bxf1 Kh8 25.Nd6 g6 26.e3 Ba6 27.Rd1 b4 28.Bxa6 Rxa6
>29.a3 Rb8 30.Qe2 Ra7
>  µ  (-0.99)   Depth: 15/37   00:01:14  61421kN
>22...Ne3 23.gxf4 Nxf1 24.Bxf1 Kh8 25.Nd6 Rf8 26.e3 g6 27.Bd3 b4 28.Kh1 Ba6
>29.Be4 Qd7 30.Rg1 Rad8
>  µ  (-1.01)   Depth: 16/39   00:02:52  137394kN
>22...Ne3 23.gxf4 Nxf1 24.Bxf1 Kh8 25.Nd6 Rf8 26.Kh2 g6 27.Rd1 a4 28.e3 Ba5
>29.Qc2 Bb7 30.Bd3 Rad8 31.Bc3 Bxc3 32.Qxc3
>  µ  (-0.86)   Depth: 17/40   00:06:06  294079kN
>
>(,  27.09.2005)

Ideas of Toga possible? :-)

Möglich ist dass Fruit WCCC Ideen von Toga 1.0 DOCH übernommen hat.

Here:

Fritz 9 - Fruit WCCC'05, 20'/40 Privat
r1br2k1/2b1q1pp/2p1p3/ppPnP3/3BNp2/5PPP/P2QP1B1/R4RK1 b - - 0 1

Analysis by Fruit 2.1:

22...fxg3 23.Sxg3
  µ  (-1.06)   Tiefe: 1/2   00:00:00
22...fxg3 23.Sxg3 Lb7
  µ  (-1.22)   Tiefe: 2/9   00:00:00
22...fxg3 23.Sxg3 Lb7 24.Se4
  µ  (-0.90)   Tiefe: 3/9   00:00:00
22...Se3 23.gxf4 Sxf1 24.Kxf1
  µ  (-1.22)   Tiefe: 3/9   00:00:00
22...Se3 23.gxf4 Sxf1 24.Kxf1 Kh8
  µ  (-1.39)   Tiefe: 4/12   00:00:00
22...Se3 23.gxf4 Sxf1 24.Kxf1 Kh8 25.Td1
  µ  (-1.08)   Tiefe: 5/13   00:00:00
22...Se3 23.gxf4 Sxf1 24.Kxf1 La6 25.Td1 b4
  µ  (-1.32)   Tiefe: 6/15   00:00:00  36kN
22...Se3 23.gxf4 Sxf1 24.Kxf1 Tf8 25.Td1 Dh4 26.e3
  µ  (-1.16)   Tiefe: 7/20   00:00:00  77kN
22...Se3 23.gxf4 Sxf1 24.Kxf1 La6 25.Sd6 Tf8 26.Td1 b4
  µ  (-1.28)   Tiefe: 8/20   00:00:01  157kN
22...Se3 23.gxf4 Sxf1 24.Kxf1 b4 25.Sd6 Tf8 26.a3 b3 27.Td1
  µ  (-1.22)   Tiefe: 9/23   00:00:03  483kN
22...Se3 23.gxf4 Sxf1 24.Txf1 b4 25.Sd6 La6 26.Td1 Td7 27.Kh2 Tf8
  µ  (-1.23)   Tiefe: 10/23   00:00:06  883kN
22...Se3 23.gxf4 Sxf1 24.Txf1 b4 25.Sd6 La6 26.Td1 Tf8 27.Kh2 Kh8 28.e4
  µ  (-1.19)   Tiefe: 11/24   00:00:12  1932kN
22...Se3 23.gxf4 Sxf1 24.Txf1 b4 25.Td1 La6 26.Sd6 Tf8 27.e4 Dh4 28.f5 exf5
29.Sxf5
  µ  (-1.28)   Tiefe: 12/31   00:00:25  4124kN

(Nemeth, Privat 27.09.2005)


SEE TOGA 1.0 here:

Fritz 9 - Fruit WCCC'05, 20'/40 Privat
r1br2k1/2b1q1pp/2p1p3/ppPnP3/3BNp2/5PPP/P2QP1B1/R4RK1 b - - 0 1

Analysis by Toga II 1.0:

22...fxg3 23.Sxg3
  -+  (-1.71)   Tiefe: 1/2   00:00:00
22...fxg3 23.Sxg3 Kh8
  -+  (-2.12)   Tiefe: 2/9   00:00:00
22...fxg3 23.Sxg3 Kh8 24.Kh2
  -+  (-1.61)   Tiefe: 3/9   00:00:00
22...fxg3 23.Sxg3 Kh8 24.Kh2 Lb7
  -+  (-1.77)   Tiefe: 4/16   00:00:00
22...fxg3 23.Sxg3 Sb4 24.Db2 Kh8 25.Kh2
  -+  (-1.44)   Tiefe: 5/16   00:00:00
22...fxg3 23.Sxg3 Dh4 24.Se4 Sf4 25.Kh1 Sxh3
  -+  (-2.05)   Tiefe: 6/22   00:00:00  40kN
22...fxg3 23.Tad1 a4 24.De1 Sf4 25.Sxg3 Kh8
  -+  (-1.95)   Tiefe: 7/22   00:00:00  94kN
22...fxg3 23.Tad1 b4 24.De1 Sf4 25.Sxg3 Dh4 26.Se4 Sxh3+ 27.Kh1
  -+  (-1.98)   Tiefe: 8/22   00:00:01  199kN
22...fxg3 23.Tad1 Dh4 24.Dg5 Dxg5 25.Sxg5 Sf4 26.Tfe1 Sxg2 27.Kxg2 h6
  -+  (-1.80)   Tiefe: 9/24   00:00:03  443kN
22...fxg3 23.Tad1 b4 24.f4 Dh4 25.Tf3 Kh8 26.e3 La6 27.Txg3
  -+  (-1.86)   Tiefe: 10/28   00:00:06  1055kN
22...fxg3 23.Tad1 Dh4 24.Dg5 Dxg5 25.Sxg5 Sf4 26.Tfe1 a4 27.e3 Sxg2 28.Kxg2 h6
  -+  (-1.95)   Tiefe: 11/29   00:00:11  2065kN
22...fxg3 23.f4 Dh4 24.Tf3 Se7 25.Sxg3 Lxe5 26.fxe5 Txd4 27.Td3 Txd3 28.Dxd3 Sd5
29.Tf1
  -+  (-1.83)   Tiefe: 12/31   00:00:32  6421kN

(Nemeth, Privat 27.09.2005)

:-))

EDuard






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