Author: Uri Blass
Date: 07:01:18 09/28/05
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On September 28, 2005 at 07:04:44, Heinz van Kempen wrote: >On September 28, 2005 at 06:54:09, Uri Blass wrote: > >>On September 28, 2005 at 06:05:25, Heinz van Kempen wrote: >> >>>Hi all , >>> >>>the need for many games is again shown in CEGT. After a rocket-like start by >>>Fritz 9 a catastrophical first series in the match by Michael against Toga was >>>already sufficient to let it drop like a stone from highest level to below Fruit >>>currently. So it happened like we expected. >> >>Dropping like a stone? >> >>I think that a stone should be able to drop faster than that >> >>Fritz9 is still second place and first place in 4/40 list when more games were >>played by Fritz(478 games and not 288 games). >> >>http://www.husvankempen.de/nunn/eloblitz.html >> >> >>Here are the numbers: >>40/4 >>1 Fritz 9 2796 30 29 478 71.8 % 2634 21.8 % >>2 Fruit WCCC'05 2786 24 24 758 73.9 % 2606 22.7 % >> >>40/40 >>1 Fruit WCCC'05 2778 12 12 2219 68.6 % 2642 32.6 % >>2 Fritz 9 2769 35 35 288 61.5 % 2688 27.8 % >> >>Nothing significant was changed and the error is still too high to decide which >>version is better at 40/4 or 40/40 >> >>Uri > >Hi Uri, > >the rating lists will be updated again in the evening with around 700 games for >Fritz 9 in Blitz and more results 40/40 from the Leagues and World Trophy. > >We are again seeing that only 250 games are just a joke and people should stop >to draw conclusions from this. > >Best Regards >Heinz > >http://www.husvankempen.de/nunn/ Maybe I am stupid when I think that I can draw conclusions but here is my conclusion from results of 288 games of Fritz9 1)Fritz9's rating is at least 2734 2)Fritz8 Bilbao's rating is at most 2724 Conclusion Fritz9 is better than Fritz8 Bilbao. Note also that if programmers never implement a change in their program before playing more than 250 games at 40/40 then their progress is going to be very slow. Programmers need to get some conclusion if you want to implement a change or do not want to implement a change with data that has less games or data that is based on faster time control if they want to be competitive. Uri
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