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Subject: Re: Test tourney aginst Palm Hiarcs, Pocket Fruit and Pocket Fritz

Author: Albert Silver

Date: 14:40:25 09/29/05

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On September 29, 2005 at 15:37:39, Axel Schumacher wrote:

>On September 29, 2005 at 14:39:07, Lance Perkins wrote:
>
>>I just completed some code that gets around the 32MB-per-process limit of WinCE.
>>So, I took the engine for a spin, as guest at ICC.
>>
>>This is what MobileThinker (ThinkerWCEDLL hashsize=5) was up against:
>>
>>Statistics for Colossus(C)         On for: 3:31     Idle:    1
>>              rating [need] win  loss  draw total   best
>>Bullet          2834  [8]  5246    30    44  5320   3027 (07-Aug-2001)
>>Blitz           2984  [8]  7137    36    99  7272   3131 (26-Nov-2001)
>>Standard        2603  [6]  3311   104   115  3530   2726 (08-Jul-2001)
>> 1: Crafty v18.15 (2 cpus)
>> 2: Thanks to Dr. Robert Hyatt and Tim Mann for all their hard work. ASUS
>>  NCCH-DL dual Nocona 2.8ghz-800FSB.
>> 3: Colossus is usually unattended and can not answer tells.
>>
>>Nothing really can be said from a single 15 0 game. Still, I myself am surprised
>>as there is at least a 40 to 1 difference in hardware speed (MobileThinker on
>>Axim X30 only manages 35KNPS).
>>
>>Not bad for a bad sportsman and a kitchen appliance.
>>
>>[Event unrated "184"]
>>[Site ""]
>>[Date "2005.09.29 01:44:07"]
>>[Round ""]
>>[White "guest7986"]
>>[Black "Colossus"]
>>[Result "1-0"]
>>1. d2d4 g8f6 2. g1f3 g7g6 3. c2c4 f8g7 4. b1c3 d7d6 5. e2e4 e8g8 6. f1e2 c7c5 7.
>>d4c5 d6c5 8. e1g1 b8c6 9. d1c2 c6d4 10. f3d4 c5d4 11. f1d1 d8b6 12. c3b5 e7e5
>>13. c4c5 b6c6 14. b5d6 b7b6 15. b2b4 c8e6 16. f2f4 e5f4 17. c1f4 f6g4 18. d6f5
>>g6f5 19. e4f5 d4d3 20. c2d3 g7a1 21. e2g4 f8d8 22. d3g3 a1g7 23. f4d6 e6f5 24.
>>g4f5 b6c5 25. b4c5 h7h6 26. f5c2 a8c8 27. c2b3 c6e4 28. d1e1 e4d4 29. g1h1 d4c3
>>30. g3f2 c3f6 31. f2e2 f6b2 32. b3f7 g8h8 33. e2e6 b2f2 34. f7g6 f2f6 35. e6e4
>>f6d4 36. e4b7 a7a5 37. b7e7 d4f2 38. g6d3 d8d7 39. e7e4 g7c3 40. e1f1 f2d4 41.
>>c5c6 d7g7 42. d6f8 g7c7 43. e4g6 d4h4 44. f8h6 c3e5 45. h2h3 a5a4 46. h6g5 c7g7
>>47. g6g7 h8g7 48. g5h4 c8c6 49. h4g5 c6c3 50. f1d1 c3a3 51. d1d2 e5c3 52. g5e7
>>c3d2 53. e7a3 g7f6 54. g2g4 f6e5 55. h1g2 e5d4 56. d3b5 d2g5 57. b5a4 d4c3 58.
>>g2f3 c3d4 59. a3b2 d4d3
>
>
>Lance,
>I ran a test-tourney with MobileThinker against the Top competitors Hiarcs 9.5a,
>Fruit 2.1 (in PocketGransmaster) and Pocket Fritz 2.01 (Shredder 7); 10 minute
>games.
>MobileThinker won all three matches ! (each match 1,5 : 0,5 ).
>I think your program is now the strongest available for PDAs.
>I also tested on ICC about 10 games; it won all of them.
>
>Axel

Come on.... How can you possibly draw any conclusions on its relative strength
against 3 opponents from 6 games? I mean, you're not even talking about 6 games
against each, which would still be far too few, but 6 games _total_.

Note that just because SMK wrote Pocket Fritz 2.01, that doesn't make it
Shredder 7. Unless you can show me that a series of positions or games where
they play the same moves at a given depth or node count.

Aside from that, I do have one question regarding the strength of Fruit on the
PDA. Could you compare the speed of Fruit running on CEBoard with Pocket
Grandmaster? I just wonder whether they yield the same results.

Finally, what about Toga II?

                      Albert



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