Author: Uri Blass
Date: 01:14:09 09/30/05
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On September 30, 2005 at 03:48:55, Heinz van Kempen wrote: >On September 30, 2005 at 03:16:38, Greg Simpson wrote: > >>On September 29, 2005 at 22:44:28, Graham Banks wrote: >> >>>On September 29, 2005 at 21:29:43, Greg Simpson wrote: >>> >>>>On September 29, 2005 at 16:27:58, Christian Koch wrote: >>>> >>>>>On September 29, 2005 at 14:30:18, Eduard Nemeth wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>Hello Uri! >>>>>> >>>>>>In the game Fruit 2.2 played Kd3?? (Operator on Playchess was Christian Koch, >>>>>>Betatetster of Fruit). >>>>>> >>>>>>Best, >>>>>>Eduard. >>>>> >>>>>Wrong again. I'm not a beta tester for Fruit! Beta tester for Fruit is Joachim >>>>>Rang. >>>>> >>>>>I'm playing games with Fruit within CEGT in a neutral way to support Fabien and >>>>>Joachim with games played by Fruit. >>>>> >>>>>http://www.husvankempen.de/nunn/ >>>>> >>>>>Eduard, please don't post false statements about my person and involvement in >>>>>testing Fruit. >>>> >>>>A beta tester is someone who is given access to a program before its official >>>>release in exchange for testing and reporting any problems back to the >>>>developer. There is in general no other connection between the tester and the >>>>developer. >>>> >>>>Unless you were planning on keeping any bugs you found to yourself, you seem to >>>>fit the description. >>> >>> >>>Hi Greg, >>> >>>Christian is part of the CEGT testing group. All CEGT testers had permission >>>from Fabien to use Fruit WCCC'05 in their testing. This was to provide people >>>with an idea of how strong Fruit 2.2 was likely to be. >>>Fruit WCCC'05 and Fruit 2.2 are essentially the same. The commercial release has >>>a couple of books and many added features, but the playing engine is the same as >>>far as I understand it. >>> >>>Regards, Graham. >> >>I understood that. In the software development world that is a classic example >>of beta testing, and all the CEGT people testing Fruit WCCC'05 were beta >>testers. Beta testing is done by people not associated with the development. >>Joachim would be considered an alpha tester, since he is on the "inside". > >Hi Greg, > >as member of the CEGT team I do not feel like a beta tester even after giving >more than 2000 games for Fruit WCCC'05 and Fruit 2.1. But we did the same for >dozens of other engines in tournaments of matches. > >For me a beta tester is someone who mainly tests several versions of a certain >program, checking for typical repeating bugs, playing with different settings of >a version, giving constant feedback to the author. This is what Joachim is >doing. Joachim is not an alpha tester. Fruit is young, but not that young. > >Best Regards >Heinz From the fruit page. Joachim Rang is the main tester of Fruit since its first public appearence. He tunes the different parameters, tests new evaluation and search features and makes suggestions for further development of Fruit. I can add that he answer emails of customers of fruit. I think that usually beta testers do not do it and describing Joachim Rang as a beta tester is misleading. If you want to describe Joachim Rang's job in one sentence then is better to say that Joachim Rang is simply the main tester of fruit and part of the fruit team. Uri
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