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Subject: Re: that is complete nonsense see the cegt-ratinglist

Author: Thomas Logan

Date: 05:53:47 09/30/05

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On September 30, 2005 at 08:38:13, Thomas Lagershausen wrote:

>On September 30, 2005 at 08:18:08, Thomas Logan wrote:
>
>>On September 30, 2005 at 07:43:29, Thomas Lagershausen wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>http://www.husvankempen.de/nunn/rangliste.html
>>>
>>>Fruit WCCC`5 = Fruit 2.2
>>>
>>>We have a new No. 1 in computerchess.
>>>
>>>TL
>>
>>Fruit may be the strongest engine in the world or it may not be
>>
>>In my view however this is not decided by a 40/40 nunn rating list
>>
>>Play them at classical time control
>>
>>let them each use their own book
>>
>>then you will have the strongest in the world
>>
>>Tom
>
>First,i am not interested in booktesting. I am interested in the strongest
>machine that give me good advices in positions that are not included in
>openingbooks, for example the recent games of the top 8 in argentinia.

Hi Thomas

What leads you to believe the nunn test suite is nuetral ?

Can you dismiss the posibility one of the engines involved was tuned using this
while the other was not ?

Also while you examine for analysis purposes can you not also considered others
examine for the strongest possible chess entity they can get on their computer

To me both are valid


>Second, classical time control is a matter of your hardware.If your hardware is >not the fastest you can“t say that 40/40 games is not the same as the games you >play on your pc.

Well I matched Toga II at 40/40 vs Shredder and Toga won

then I matched them at classical time control Shredder won

I believe I can say 40/40 is not the same as classical time control

Dont get me wrong Fruit is very strong and it may have surpassed Shredder at its
best but lets find that out by putting the best Shredder foward

personally to me a 40-40 nunn Shredder is not it


Tom



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