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Subject: Re: Anand too deep today for the rest of the world, even Hydra

Author: Eelco de Groot

Date: 22:22:11 09/30/05

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On September 30, 2005 at 23:17:55, Frank Wies wrote:

>After 45 minutes on a dual opteron 275, Deep Shredder 9 X64 has not found the
>line. I set the machine to a depth of 30 and will let it run for a while longer.
>Right now, it is showing a slightly (-0.12) negative position for white! Best
>move to this point is Rf1.
>Regards,
>Frank

I'm not sure if any computer will eventually play this move, but it is not
impossible. One of the strengths of Anand's move may be that 23..Nxe1 may be the
only move that promises any counterchances, so Qd2 is a move with "singularity"
:) The computers will not include that in their eval -or do they, they can
calculate such moves deeper also?- but for the grandmaster sitting in his small
study it makes deep home preparation easier and offers chances for the opponent
to go wrong, as Adams promptly did.

I let a Pro Deo Vulcan analyse the position after 23.Qd2, eventually the score
(from Black's viewpoint) did go a little under zero but not by much.

Pro Deo 1.1 Vulcan {9k17p6} after 23.Qd2

 1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bb5 a6 4.Ba4 Nf6 5.O-O Be7 6.Re1 b5 7.Bb3 d6 8.c3
 O-O 9.h3 Bb7 10.d4 Re8 11.Nbd2 Bf8 12.a4 h6 13.Bc2 exd4 14.cxd4 Nb4
 15.Bb1 c5 16.d5 Nd7 17.Ra3 c4 18.axb5 axb5 19.Nd4 Qb6 20.Nf5 Ne5 21.Rg3
 g6 22.Nf3 Ned3 23.Qd2

 [D]r3rbk1/1b3p2/1q1p2pp/1p1P1N2/1np1P3/3n1NRP/1P1Q1PP1/1BB1R1K1 b - -

 00:00:00   1.01  0.73  23..Nxe1 24.Nxe1
 00:00:00   2.00  0.93  23..Nxe1 24.Nxe1 Ra1 25.Nxh6 Bxh6 26.Qxh6 Rxb1
 00:00:00   3.00  0.85  23..Nxe1 24.Nxe1 Ra1 25.Bc2 Nxc2
 00:00:00   4.00  0.91  23..Nxe1 24.Nxe1 Ra1 25.Nc2 Nxc2 26.Bxc2
 00:00:00   4.05  0.98  23..Ra1 24.Bxd3 Nxd3 25.Rf1 Rxe4 26.Nxh6
 00:00:00   5.00  1.11  23..Ra1 24.Bxd3 Nxd3 25.Rf1 h5 26.Nh6 Bxh6
 00:00:00   6.00  0.00  23..Ra1 24.Bxd3 Nxd3 25.Nxh6 Bxh6 26.Qxh6 Qxf2
                        27.Kh2 Nxe1 28.Rxg6 fxg6
 00:00:00   6.01  0.79  23..Nxe1 24.Nxe1 Ra1 25.Nxh6 Kh7 26.Nxf7 Rxb1
 00:00:00   7.00  0.26  23..Nxe1 24.Nxe1 Ra1 25.Nxh6 Bxh6 26.Qxh6
 00:00:01   8.00  0.26  23..Nxe1 24.Nxe1
 00:00:02   9.00  0.00  23..Nxe1 24.Nxe1 Ra1 25.Nxh6 Bxh6 26.Qxh6
 00:00:05  10.00  0.00  23..Nxe1 24.Nxe1 Ra1 25.Nxh6 Bxh6 26.Qxh6
 00:00:12  11.00  0.00  23..Nxe1 24.Nxe1 Ra1 25.Nxh6 Bxh6 26.Qxh6
 00:00:33  12.00  -0.11  23..Nxe1 24.Nxe1 Nxd5 25.Nxh6 Bxh6 26.Qxh6
                         Qd4 27.Nf3 Qg7 28.exd5 Qxh6 29.Bxh6 Ra1 30.Nd2
                         Re1
 00:00:40  12.01  0.00  23..h5 24.Nh6 Bxh6 25.Qxh6 Qxf2 26.Kh2 Nxe1
                        27.Rxg6 fxg6 28.Qxg6 Kh8 29.Qh6 Kg8 30.Qg6
                        Kh8 31.Qh6 Kg8
 00:01:47  13.00  0.00  23..h5 24.Nh6 Bxh6 25.Qxh6 Qxf2 26.Kh2 Nxe1
                        27.Rxg6 fxg6 28.Qxg6 Kh8 29.Qh6 Kg8 30.Qg6
                        Kh8 31.Qh6 Kg8
 00:05:12  14.00  -0.35  23..h5 24.Rf1 Qd8 25.Qc3 Nxc1 26.Rxc1 Na2
                         27.Bxa2 Rxa2
 00:05:48  14.01  0.00  23..Nxe1 24.Nxe1 Nxd5 25.Nxh6 Bxh6 26.Qxh6
                        Qd4 27.Nc2
 00:16:41  15.00  -0.20  23..Nxe1 24.Nxe1 Nxd5 25.Nxh6 Bxh6 26.Qxh6
                         Qd4
 00:57:55  16.00  -0.20  23..Nxe1 24.Nxe1 Nxd5 25.Nxh6 Bxh6 26.Qxh6


Eelco



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