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Subject: Re: Fritz 9 And The Rules Of Chess (or some people just don't listen....

Author: Chris Conkie

Date: 04:47:20 10/01/05

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>I don't approve of plagiarism either.  What
>does this have to do with Fritz 9 engine?

There are two things going on here. One is the need for a better quality chess
engine which I am sorry, Fritz is not in my opinion. (Compare with another
ChessBase engines like Shredder for example which DOES understand the rules)

The other is that the positions are used to check the way an engine is coded.
This way we know by checking similarity with other open source engines when
someone is "at it".

>Sorry but that is not proof that Fritz 9 has a problem.  Maybe it is proof that
>Chessbase 8 or below does.

Yes it is a proof. The GUI should not interpret the rules for an engine. The
engine is exposed by older GUI's because the older GUI's are not telling the
engine the rules. Brain surgery is not required to understand this.

>>Look.....here is their office. ;)
>>
>>http://www.fetchfido.co.uk/games/magnetcote/magnetcote.htm
>
>What is this?
>
>>
>>Type in "Fritz9 does not work" and watch a how a typical support request is
>>dealt with.....
>
>That is your idea of a bug report?  Why bother?

It's humour.....but quite realistic humour. This is a parody of support from
ChessBase. If you don't understand the realism behind the joke....fair enough, I
can't help you. However, many in here know just how deaf ChessBase as an
organisation are to their customers.

If ChessBase need to be shamed into producing the products that work properly,
then shamed they will be.......always. That however is a side issue in this
matter.

Apert from all of these very relevant points consider this important fact......

1. ChessBase do not make the strongest engines anymore.

2. They make buggy software.

3. To add insult to injury charge exorbitantly for their buggy software.

They have got away with it for too long and they shall not pass anymore. Most
have a choice and can vote with their feet as required. It is down to personally
preference. I personally like real chess engines that can be played in a
standalone way. I also want where possible to use those engines in a GUI of my
choice. Not something that has more crashes than Evil Kinevil.

They are getting there very very slowly. Too slowly. First a bad implementation
of Winboard (ask around) then UCI (as around) and now a really rotten
implementation of Chess960 with no regard for existing standards.

I think we are just about done here, until the next ADVERT for ChessBase buggy
software appears here. At that point I hope they have their flak jackets on. You
see at least half of the "Fritz9" messages in this forum are by ChessBase
themselves and we know it. Pat yourself on your own back why don't they.....

Job not well done.

I was bought Fritz9 by the way, believe it or not, as a present......

With friends like these........pah.

:)

Chris




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