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Subject: Re: PGN

Author: Peter Kappler

Date: 08:51:33 10/01/05

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On September 30, 2005 at 23:48:42, Bruce Moreland wrote:

>As far as I know there has been no revision to the standard for ten years.
>Please correct me if I am wrong, and I would love to be wrong.
>
>Problems:
>
>1) No clear definition of export standard.  Is there one writer that is
>considered the standard?
>
>2) NAGs do not correlate well with Informant/ECO symbols.  There are some ECO
>meanings that don't exist, and other NAGs are ambiguous in that context.  This
>sounds like a trivial problem, but it causes hell if you try to write something
>that reads PGN, converts to some sane format for editing, and then write it back
>out to PGN.
>
>3) The standard allows comments in stupid places, some of which won't seem
>stupid to some people.
>
>Assume you are parsing a file, and you find a comment.  You really want to
>attach it to a move.  This is kind of hard to do if the comment follows the last
>game in the file, if it occurs between games, occurs in the middle of a tag,
>etc.
>
>Anyone else know of problems?  Anyone else have any idea how to fix them?
>
>Last time I sent email to Steven J Edwards about this, he essentially told me
>that great minds were working on it, and that I should shut up and go away.
>
>That was in about 1997.
>
>bruce


Bruce,

I hope you won't wait another 8 years for Steven and his "great minds".  I'm
still waiting for his "2004 North American CC Championship" to take place.  :)

You're very well respected in the computer chess community - if you write a
proposal for fixing/extending PGN, it will probably be adopted.

-Peter



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