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Subject: Re: Nice work, keep it up

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 12:27:01 10/01/05

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On October 01, 2005 at 12:59:35, Thomas Logan wrote:

>On October 01, 2005 at 12:40:53, Uri Blass wrote:
>
>>On October 01, 2005 at 12:22:18, Thomas Logan wrote:
>>
>>>On October 01, 2005 at 10:53:02, robert flesher wrote:
>>>
>>>> I am also seeing Fruit with a positive score against Shredder 9.1, truly a huge
>>>>achievement for Fabien. We shall we if it continues over 100 games. However,
>>>>after looking at the games i have little doubt. Cheers
>>>
>>>Hi
>>>
>>>Yes it truly is huge achievement for Fabien
>>>
>>>Makes me sad for my favorite engine Shredder should trend continue
>>>
>>>Oh well perhaps SMK will be inspired to reach even greater heights
>>>
>>>My hat is off to Fabien and the Fruit team
>>>
>>>Tom
>>
>>I am sure about it but the same is going to be also for Fabien.
>>
>>Fruit still has weaknesses that Shredder does not have and it extends too much.
>>
>>Limiting fruit's extensions may lead to at least 1 elo increase for fruit(at
>>least 1 can be also 10 or 50 and I am simply not sure how much)
>>
>>Limiting fruit's qsearch so it does not need to search some minutes for mate in
>>1 is going to lead to another elo increase.
>>
>>Some important extensions(see botvinik-markof extension) can again lead to
>>another increase and tablebases may lead to another increase.
>>
>>My guess is that Fruit is going to earn more than 50 elo in the next year(more
>>than 100 is also possible but I prefer to be careful in my estimate).
>>
>>Uri
>
>Yes 100 in incredibly high
>
>even 50 is a pretty healthy increase
>
>I would like to see Fruit go deep and matched against Hydra
>
>Tom

You may consider it as high but knowing all the disadvantages of Fruit it seems
to me clearly possible.

I support fruit because Fabien fights with hands behind his back because he
cannot learn from code of Fritz and Shredder that is few months old when the
opponents may learn from code of Fruit2.1

I consider Fabien as the best active chess programmer even if Fruit will not
keep the first place and Shredder10 becomes slightly better because of the fact
that fabien is fighting for the first place in inferior conditions.

Uri



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