Author: Mike Byrne
Date: 10:10:46 10/02/05
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On October 02, 2005 at 12:59:17, Uri Blass wrote: >On October 02, 2005 at 12:49:43, Mike Byrne wrote: > >>On October 02, 2005 at 12:41:51, Drexel,Michael wrote: >> >>>On October 02, 2005 at 12:27:17, Terry McCracken wrote: >>> >>>>On October 02, 2005 at 12:07:02, Drexel,Michael wrote: >>>> >>>>>On October 02, 2005 at 11:28:13, Terry McCracken wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>On October 02, 2005 at 10:46:25, Mike Byrne wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>On October 02, 2005 at 10:35:48, Amused To Death wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Is there A web site that covers the game where Gary touched the pawn >>>>>>> >>>>>>>It was not a pawn , it was a knight. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn?pagename=article&contentId=A38229-2000Jul3¬Found=true >>>>>>> >>>>>>>halfway down the story >>>>>>> >>>>>>>"In 1994 in Linares, Spain, Kasparov played a knight move against Judit Polgar >>>>>>>and removed his fingers from that piece. But after he saw that he might lose >>>>>>>material, he took the knight back and made a different move. His act was caught >>>>>>>on camera by a Spanish television crew, but Polgar was so shocked that she >>>>>>>froze, uncapable to protest and soon lost the game. " >>>>>>> >>>>>>>do google search on "polgar+kasparov+knight+Linares+touched" >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Michael >>>>>> >>>>>>The story is different than when I first heard it. What I had read years ago, is >>>>>>Kasparov touched the square with his Knight, for all of a quarter second then >>>>>>moved it to the correct square. Polgar could have held him to the touch square >>>>>>rule, but this is the first time I've heard that Kasparov removed his fingers >>>>>>from the piece. >>>>>> >>>>>>At this point, I'd rather see the footage, then read a report. >>>>>> >>>>>>Terry >>>>> >>>>>JFYI, there isn´t a "touch square rule" in chess. Touching a square is allowed. >>>>>Kasparov has released the piece. >>>>> >>>>>Michael >>>> >>>>Ah...yeah there is Micheal....touch square touch piece, etc. You don't have to >>>>release the piece. >>>> >>>>Go through the all rules concerning this. FIDE USCF CFC etc. I'll be surprised >>>>to see this rule changed. >>> >>>What are you talking about? As long as you haven´t released the piece you are >>>entitled to move it on another square. >>>Of course I don´t know about USCF rules and I don´t care, in Linares FIDE rules >>>applied. >>> >>>Michael >> >>There is no "touch square" in USCF either - Terry is mistaken. You can touch >>every sqaure with a piece and still place the piece on any square. This issue >>here is that Kasparov let go of the knight and moved a different piece. >>Obviously once you let go, that move with has has to be played to that sqaure >>(if legal of course). If the sqaure is not legal, that piece still has to be >>moved. Only if it would be illegal to move that piece can you get away with it. >> Unless you're Garry Kasparov. ;>) >> >>best, >> >>Michael > >No >I agree that touching the square is not the problem but >Kasparov left the knight in the wrong square and later tried to move to another >square. > >"left" means putting the knight in a square and stopping to touch it for a short >time(in the game there was something like 1/3 second that the hand of kasparov >did not touch the knight). > >Uri I think you and I agree - he let go of the piece - that is the touch piece rule - once let goof teh piece (even for .3 seconds) he could not move it again. I think I was unclear - but you can touch every sqaure witha piece while continuosuly holding onto it. There is no touch square rule that Terry is suggesting. I doubt there ever was rule like that - and there has not been a rule liek that since I have been playing chess (1972). best, Michael
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