Author: Gregory Owett
Date: 11:34:26 10/02/05
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On October 02, 2005 at 13:10:46, Mike Byrne wrote: >On October 02, 2005 at 12:59:17, Uri Blass wrote: > >>On October 02, 2005 at 12:49:43, Mike Byrne wrote: >> >>>On October 02, 2005 at 12:41:51, Drexel,Michael wrote: >>> >>>>On October 02, 2005 at 12:27:17, Terry McCracken wrote: >>>> >>>>>On October 02, 2005 at 12:07:02, Drexel,Michael wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>On October 02, 2005 at 11:28:13, Terry McCracken wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>On October 02, 2005 at 10:46:25, Mike Byrne wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>On October 02, 2005 at 10:35:48, Amused To Death wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>Is there A web site that covers the game where Gary touched the pawn >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>It was not a pawn , it was a knight. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn?pagename=article&contentId=A38229-2000Jul3¬Found=true >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>halfway down the story >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>"In 1994 in Linares, Spain, Kasparov played a knight move against Judit Polgar >>>>>>>>and removed his fingers from that piece. But after he saw that he might lose >>>>>>>>material, he took the knight back and made a different move. His act was caught >>>>>>>>on camera by a Spanish television crew, but Polgar was so shocked that she >>>>>>>>froze, uncapable to protest and soon lost the game. " >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>do google search on "polgar+kasparov+knight+Linares+touched" >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Michael >>>>>>> >>>>>>>The story is different than when I first heard it. What I had read years ago, is >>>>>>>Kasparov touched the square with his Knight, for all of a quarter second then >>>>>>>moved it to the correct square. Polgar could have held him to the touch square >>>>>>>rule, but this is the first time I've heard that Kasparov removed his fingers >>>>>>>from the piece. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>At this point, I'd rather see the footage, then read a report. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Terry >>>>>> >>>>>>JFYI, there isn´t a "touch square rule" in chess. Touching a square is allowed. >>>>>>Kasparov has released the piece. >>>>>> >>>>>>Michael >>>>> >>>>>Ah...yeah there is Micheal....touch square touch piece, etc. You don't have to >>>>>release the piece. >>>>> >>>>>Go through the all rules concerning this. FIDE USCF CFC etc. I'll be surprised >>>>>to see this rule changed. >>>> >>>>What are you talking about? As long as you haven´t released the piece you are >>>>entitled to move it on another square. >>>>Of course I don´t know about USCF rules and I don´t care, in Linares FIDE rules >>>>applied. >>>> >>>>Michael >>> >>>There is no "touch square" in USCF either - Terry is mistaken. You can touch >>>every sqaure with a piece and still place the piece on any square. This issue >>>here is that Kasparov let go of the knight and moved a different piece. >>>Obviously once you let go, that move with has has to be played to that sqaure >>>(if legal of course). If the sqaure is not legal, that piece still has to be >>>moved. Only if it would be illegal to move that piece can you get away with it. >>> Unless you're Garry Kasparov. ;>) >>> >>>best, >>> >>>Michael >> >>No >>I agree that touching the square is not the problem but >>Kasparov left the knight in the wrong square and later tried to move to another >>square. >> >>"left" means putting the knight in a square and stopping to touch it for a short >>time(in the game there was something like 1/3 second that the hand of kasparov >>did not touch the knight). >> >>Uri > >I think you and I agree - he let go of the piece - that is the touch piece rule >- once let goof teh piece (even for .3 seconds) he could not move it again. I >think I was unclear - but you can touch every sqaure witha piece while >continuosuly holding onto it. There is no touch square rule that Terry is >suggesting. I doubt there ever was rule like that - and there has not been a >rule liek that since I have been playing chess (1972). > >best, > >Michael Everyone makes a mistake. Certainly the piece was accidentally fallen from his hand, and he has picked up again. :)) Gregory
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