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Subject: Re: Kasparov vs Polgar

Author: Terry McCracken

Date: 19:27:55 10/02/05

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On October 02, 2005 at 19:46:01, Albert Silver wrote:

>
>>>>>>>>Is there A web site that covers the game where Gary touched the pawn
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>It was not a pawn , it was a knight.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn?pagename=article&contentId=A38229-2000Jul3&notFound=true
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>halfway down the story
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>"In 1994 in Linares, Spain, Kasparov played a knight move against Judit Polgar
>>>>>>>and removed his fingers from that piece. But after he saw that he might lose
>>>>>>>material, he took the knight back and made a different move. His act was caught
>>>>>>>on camera by a Spanish television crew, but Polgar was so shocked that she
>>>>>>>froze, uncapable to protest and soon lost the game. "
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>do google search on "polgar+kasparov+knight+Linares+touched"
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Michael
>>>>>>
>>>>>>The story is different than when I first heard it. What I had read years ago, is
>>>>>>Kasparov touched the square with his Knight, for all of a quarter second then
>>>>>>moved it to the correct square. Polgar could have held him to the touch square
>>>>>>rule, but this is the first time I've heard that Kasparov removed his fingers
>>>>>>from the piece.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>At this point, I'd rather see the footage, then read a report.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Terry
>>>>>
>>>>>JFYI, there isn“t a "touch square rule" in chess. Touching a square is allowed.
>>>>>Kasparov has released the piece.
>>>>>
>>>>>Michael
>>>>
>>>>Ah...yeah there is Micheal....touch square touch piece, etc. You don't have to
>>>>release the piece.
>>>>
>>>>Go through the all rules concerning this. FIDE USCF CFC etc. I'll be surprised
>>>>to see this rule changed.
>>>
>>>Micheal is correct
>>>
>>>You can see the fide rules at
>>>http://www.fide.com/official/handbook.asp?level=EE101
>>>
>>>Uri
>>
>>The FIDE is unclear, big surprise.
>
>I never heard of a rule regarding touching the square. I wonder if it is a rule
>used in the US. I know that by FIDE rules, as well as those I played in France
>and Brazil, there is none. The move is only considered concluded when the player
>let's go of the piece. There are a number of cases covered by this rule of
>course. One is where the move made is illegal, and that no move by the piece
>played could be legal. In such a case, the entire move must be replayed. If the
>square played is illegal, but the piece could have been played to a different
>square, then the player must play the same piece and select a different square.
>
>My memory of the incident was that he did indeed let go of the piece for a
>fraction of a second and then claimed he neither saw nor could recollect having
>let go. The footage showed he had clearly let go, however quickly, as I recall.
>
>                                            Albert

Apparently this rule is now obsolete. If you read below Mike Bryne did some
research, so I'm a bit behind the times it seems;-)

Terry



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