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Subject: Re: Fruit 2.2 : own book works great with Arena; how use own book in CB

Author: Henrik Dinesen

Date: 01:04:05 10/03/05

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On October 02, 2005 at 11:21:42, Roy Brunjes wrote:

>On October 02, 2005 at 10:39:03, Joachim Rang wrote:
>
>>On October 02, 2005 at 09:43:46, Roy Brunjes wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>I have already read the threads on this issue here and they are not helpful. As
>>>the subject line states, with Arena, no issues at all. Nice to have an
>>>alternative to CB yet again!
>>>
>>>I would like to try out some Fruit 2.2 games on playchess.com though and so I
>>>need the CB proprietary GUI for that. I have gone through the "create UCI"
>>>process with no errors. I can load Fruit 2.2 as an engine just fine.
>>>
>>>As an aside, I would like to find a chess server that is a free alternative to
>>>playchess.com that others can use for engine-engine games (amongst others) that
>>>does not require the CB GUI. I prefer a system where computer accounts are
>>>created freely without hassles (unlike FICS or ICC). Anyone know of such a
>>>place?
>>>
>>>I click on the "Openings Book" tab in the GUI and closed the book in use so that
>>>pane now just says "Load Book". I selected "Change Main Engine" and then clicked
>>>on the "Engine Parameters" button. "Own Book" is checked off on the window of
>>>engine parameters that pops up. In the field "Book File" I have tried "book.bin"
>>>(the default), "C:\Program Files\Fruit\book.bin" (a full path to where the
>>>book.bin file lives" and even C:\book.bin (I copied the book file there in the
>>>hopes it would find it).
>>>
>>>While there is some small evidence that a book might be in use, it's not right:
>>>
>>>1. e4   e5 (immediate response indicating some sort of book I suppose)
>>>2. Nf3     (Fruit is now out of book).
>>>
>>>or this
>>>
>>>1. e4   c5 (immediate response)
>>>2. Nf3     (Fruit is now out of book).
>>>
>>>Anyone have better luck with the CB GUI and own book use for Fruit 2.2 ?
>>>
>>>Thanks,
>>>
>>>Roy
>>
>>
>>Hi Roy,
>>
>>yes this is a known bug. Djordje Vidanovic reported it to us and now we know the
>>reason. CB-GUI let's the engine ponder even while in book. If the move of the
>>opponent matches the ponder move Fruit does not play from the book but
>>calculates. If later the move from the opponent does not match the ponder move
>>Fruit begins to play book moves again.
>>
>>Fabien has already fixed this and it will be made available int the first update
>>of Fruit togehter with Tablebase-Support.
>>
>>I'm sorry of that bug but it will be fixed soon.
>>
>>I hope for your understanding.
>>
>>Joachim
>
>Joachim,
>
>Thank you for your response. Hmm... I submitted a query for help on a public
>bulletin board and received a response directly from the vendor within hours
>with a cogent response that says a fix has been made and will be released in the
>next release.  Already this is better support than what most users seem to get
>from ChessBase.
>
>Add to that support for non-Windows platforms like Linux and Mac OS/X ... things
>are beginning to look even better now. Not only is Fruit 2.2 a very strong
>engine, but the support is already showing itself to be better than what I am
>used to from ChessBase.
>
>Of course doing this well over a long period of time is what defines true
>excellence. The Fruit team is off to a good start all the same!
>
>Roy


I agree completely! :)

But don't expect them to cope just as well if/when Fruit reach level of use that
the CB programs has, without further people to assist. Luckily they only have to
support an engine!

Though, a lot of support can be done via info on the website, and some good
"readme"s coming with the engine, explaining things like setups, known bugs, the
meaning of the engine-settings etc.

Regards
Henrik



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