Author: James T. Walker
Date: 16:36:36 10/03/05
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On October 03, 2005 at 10:55:06, Günther Simon wrote: >On October 03, 2005 at 10:21:04, Uri Blass wrote: > >>On October 03, 2005 at 10:17:57, Günther Simon wrote: >> >>>On October 03, 2005 at 09:26:04, George Tsavdaris wrote: >>>... >>> >>>>What do you think? If a perfect playing Chess program was available now, then >>>>what would happen if we match it against the top todays engines? Do these >>>>engines could achieve any draw or even wins in a big tournament......? >>> >>>If it was perfect, how could it lose? This would be considered a paradoxon. >>>You can speculate about draws against it, but I prefer drinking a glass >>>of vine, or sitting in the garden instead. YMMV. >>> >>>Guenther >> >>If white has a forced win in chess then even the perfect program can lose >>games with black. > >My basic assumption is that White to move is not a win between >perfect players. > >Guenther > All theory of course but my basic assumption is that there are no perfect players and will not be in my lifetime. However I believe that if programmers don't quit improving programs, eventually it will be impossible for humans to even gain a draw. At that point you may say that for practical purposes they are perfect even though they may make mistakes that humans cannot recognize. Then only computers will be able to beat computers. ( Just my theory of course) >> >>I believe that chess is a draw but I cannot even prove that black has not a >>forced win. >> >>Uri
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