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Subject: Re: All Fritz's versions are wrong in the number of moves to mate

Author: blass uri

Date: 23:15:56 03/07/99

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On March 07, 1999 at 22:14:54, Richard A. Fowell (fowell@netcom.com) wrote:

>On March 07, 1999 at 16:27:37, blass uri wrote:
>
>>I found that all Fritz's versions are often wrong in the number of moves when
>>they see mate.
>>
>>I think that not telling the number of moves for mate is better than displaying
>>wrong information.
>>
>>Fritz does not know to count distance to mate and if chessbase cannot fix it or
>>prefer not to fix it then they should give evaluation of # without a number
>>after the #
>>
>>Uri
>
>When you say "wrong", do you mean that, when they say "Mate in 4",
>a) sometimes mate requires more than 4 moves
>b) sometimes mate can be delivered in less than 4 moves
>c) both (a) and (b)
>
>If (a), I think this is a problem, if (b), not so much of one.
>Also, do you have examples (preferably in EPD).

I mean a (of course b happens but is not a problem)

I have examples from the ssdf games about the latest version Fritz5.32
4k3/R4p1p/4p1pP/4P1P1/p4P2/8/3K4/8 w - - 0 1

Fritz5.32 played  Kc3 with Mate in 9 and I think that there is no mate in 9

Fritz did not see mate in 9 and won after 51.Kc3 a3 52.Kc4 Kd8 53.Rxa3 Kc7
54.Kb5 Kd8 55.Ra8+ Kd7 56.Rh8 Ke7 57.Kc6 f6 58.exf6+

In this position:
6k1/1p3pp1/p6p/P7/5q1P/1P1PpBr1/2P5/R2Q1K2 b - - 0 1

Fritz played Rh3 with mate in 6 and after c3 played Rh1+ against with mate in 6.


Uri


>
>Richard A. Fowell (fowell@netcom.com)



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