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Subject: To Everyone....Karpov Still Has a Point

Author: Terry McCracken

Date: 08:53:05 10/06/05

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He may be dismissing computer chess too lightly, but I've watched players on ICC
who were NOT GMs and obtain winning positions against these "silicon brutes",
and often they're losses are on time. The games were 15/0  or small time
increments. These favour machines, still I've seen them burn but escape due to
the bell.

There are  people here who do in fact beat programs, and we know this to be
true.

Anand never took the matches between Kramnik and Fritz too seriously or Kasparov
matches with Deep Junior or Deep Fritz. If you really look at those games, you
can see both Kramnik and Kasparov dominating these beasts, but for what ever
reason they messed up in even and also won positions, more than once.
So those matches don't mean as much as you think. Sure the machines were strong,
but in no way better than either of these grandmasters.

Hydra is the only _real_ exception, and even here, GM Nichols with a computer
was beating it at corr. GM Topolov had it beat and let it slip to a draw.
There's a stronger ver. now but I suspect a top GM on a good day who plays
computers often, could win a game, even a match, but I suspect after GM Adams
poor performance we might not see such an event. What a shame.

Machines are NOT completely dominating the top humans or very experienced
computer players, at least not yet.  Say what you will, but the losses are often
due to oversights that make the machines look better than the actually are.

That's my two cents.

Terry






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