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Subject: Re: Do "settings" have sense for strenght purpose ?

Author: Graham Banks

Date: 14:34:45 10/06/05

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On October 06, 2005 at 17:28:04, Maurizio De Leo wrote:

>Lately I have seen a lot of suggestion for "tweaking" engines.
>First there were the Chessmaster and Rebel personalities, then Dr. Wael Deeb and
>Sandro Necchi proposed a couple of Shredder settings, and lately even Uri
>suggested some option for increasing the strenght of Fruit.
>
>My question is: are these settings really useful as long as playing strenght is
>concerned ? I am sure they are useful for changing the play style or enhance the
>aggressiveness (like with the different ChessTiger "levels")...but recent CEGT
>test seems to indicate that they don't have a big effect on ELO.
>
>http://www.husvankempen.de/nunn/ranglisteall.html
>
>Shredder 9 eccentric seems to be weaker or at most at the same level as default.
>Even for CM (with dozens of personalities and hundreds of tests, starting from
>CM8000) the most tested settings are still in a confidence range overlapping the
>confidence range of the default. Realistically the improvement will be under 30
>elo.
>
>So....do you think that different setting can be useful for development of
>engines or they are just another way to have fun with computer chess ?
>
>Maurizio


Yes to both of your final questions.
One thing that the CEGT rating list is showing is that any gains are usually
small although I will say that at longer time controls like 40 in 80 or 40 in
120, these gains usually magnify.

Graham.



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