Author: Bruce Moreland
Date: 00:59:13 10/11/05
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On October 10, 2005 at 16:50:38, Dann Corbit wrote:
>On October 10, 2005 at 16:43:48, Bruce Moreland wrote:
>
>>On October 10, 2005 at 14:23:14, Bruce Moreland wrote:
>>
>>>Does anyone have one annotated PGN game (lots of text comments), with deep
>>>side-variations, that is free of copyright issues?
>>>
>>>Preferably the game should be a real game with sane annotations.
>>>
>>>bruce
>>
>>I should elaborate upon this.
>>
>>I am making a thing. It is possible that the thing might sell for money, it is
>>possible that I might give it away, or it is possible that I might sit on it
>>forever, like I have with other things that I have made.
>>
>>At this point, the thing needs one sample PGN file containing one sample game.
>>I would like the thing to demonstrate the kinds of things that can happen in
>>normal PGN games -- tags, comments, recursive variations, NAGs.
>>
>>I want to be able to distribute this under any conceivable circumstance without
>>the person who annotated it suing me.
>>
>>I also don't want to give the annotator any money.
>
>I have no idea about the rights for any of the games in here. However, it
>should be useful for testing your thing. If it can eat all of this stuff
>without barfing, it parses pretty well.
>http://cap.connx.com/chess-engines/new-approach/annotations.pgn.bz2
>
>PGN-Extract by Barnes can correctly process the whole file, and so I guess that
>it is without errors.
That is an excellent wad of crap.
I discovered something interesting though. PGN, being a standard that does
everything, doesn't do a lot of things. One of the things it does not do is
address any actual possible uses of the games that are stored in PGN.
One possible use is to display annotated games. Some annotators might wish to
include a board position in certain places, and there is no PGN standard for
this.
Well, there is now.
At least one of the games uses the following comment format:
{ # banana }
This is intended to insert a diagram at the current location, and will caption
the diagram with the word "banana".
This is a sane way to do this.
I also came up with this on my own. I was very surprised when going through
that wad I started getting captioned diagrams popping out.
There is at least one other viewer that does this.
So I suggest this as an addition to the shadow-standard.
bruce
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