Author: chandler yergin
Date: 07:56:47 10/11/05
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On October 11, 2005 at 10:25:36, Majd Al-Ansari wrote: >On October 10, 2005 at 10:39:39, chandler yergin wrote: > >>On October 10, 2005 at 10:27:33, Peter Berger wrote: >> >>>On October 10, 2005 at 10:18:29, chandler yergin wrote: >>> >>>> Since you are not a Correspondence player or even a Top Chess Player; >>>>you must excuse if I ignore your speculations. >>> >>>Ahem, ICCF rating list disagrees here: >>> >>>1 270233 Blass, Uri M 2579 18 15,0 42556 2004 U >>> >>>1 511269 Ham, Stephen E. M 2497 57 0,0 0 2005 F >>> >>>Btw: no matches were found for: Name Berger, Peter Fed GER >>> >>>;) >>>Peter >> Sorry I stand corrected! I should have checked his Profile, >>and yours.. Still I know some correspondence players, and they don't use >>Computers except for Blunder checks. They are of the old school and take >>a dim view of Computer use. >>I know in some of our discussion and E-Mail game we started, you were not >>going to use a Computer, I was, and we'd play. >> >>So, I apologize to Uri.. His Correspondence rating is impressive. >>His attitude against Human Ability is offensive to me however. > > >Offensive??? To me they sounded very informative and downright realistic. Face >it even the BEST players in the world (Topalov, Kasparov, Anand etc....) use >computer EXTENSIVELY in their analysis. As a matter of fact Kasparov has now >admitted that for a long time he had a big advantage over players because he was >able to be an expert in using chess database software and engine analysis in >preparing some nasty surprises over his opponents. Some of thos nasty surprises >are still on his hard disk to be uncorked at a later time. Since then a top 100 >chessplayer would be slaughtered very quickly if he did not know how to use >chess software. Being too arrogant to use computers as help would make that >person bleed on the battlefield. Use them yes.. totally rely on them? It can be disasterous. They are a tool, and a good one, but they only 'evaluate' positions. Humans create & advance theory, not computers. Kasparov made a $300,000 mistake by relying on a move he thought no computer would make. Hydra lost to a Correspondence player. Humans must make the moves.. computers only evaluate those moves. The evaluation is very limited due to the size of the chess tree.
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