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Subject: Re: Toga 1.0 and the bad bishop

Author: Ryan B.

Date: 10:32:58 10/13/05

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On October 13, 2005 at 06:26:05, Uri Blass wrote:

>On October 13, 2005 at 03:02:45, Ryan B. wrote:
>
>>I think it is a known issue that Toga, just like Fruit that it is based on,
>>knows very little about stratrgy and plays off being a great searcher.
>
>
>No
>
>I think that evaluation is one of the big advantage of fruit relative to
>opponents and not search.
>
>I have examples when Fruit simply evaluate position better than commercial
>programs.
>
>
>  Becuase
>>it is an open source program you could add to the eval but it will slow down the
>>search some for each thing added.  In computer chess it is still tactics over
>>strategy, never mind the so called "positional" chess programs.
>
>I disagree.
>I think that there are lot of positions that fruit understand better than
>commercial programs(see the case of the exchange sacrifice that I mentioned)
>
>Fruit is also not a fast solver of nolot 1 or nolot 2 so I do not think it's
>relative advantage to the commercial programs is tactics.
>
>Uri


Fruit understands the exchange sacrifice you mentioned because it has no bad
trade value.  I am sure it could also get burned on not having one.  Not that a
bad trade value is good chess knowledge becuase it is just a lazy assumption
that is usualty right.



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