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Subject: Re: Search for a tool

Author: chandler yergin

Date: 18:27:50 10/13/05

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On October 13, 2005 at 20:58:46, Randall Shane wrote:

>On October 13, 2005 at 18:56:51, chandler yergin wrote:
>
>>On October 13, 2005 at 18:52:09, Randall Shane wrote:
>>
>>>On October 13, 2005 at 18:01:30, chandler yergin wrote:
>>>
>>>>You m st first 'create a file called Fischer.pgn
>>>>Make sure this is yout 'write' Database
>>>>After searching and highlighting the games
>>>>save to this.
>>>
>>>That would work for extracting Fischer's games.
>>>
>>>This doesn't work very well to extract everybody's games -- if there are, for
>>>example, 5000 different players in a DB of 6 million games, you REALLY wouldn't
>>>want to manually perform the above interactive operation for 5000 players.
>>>
>>>A batch solution, rather than an interactive solution, is what's needed.
>>>To the best of my knowledge, the Chessbase interface does not support automated
>>>batch operations.  I'd be shocked if any existing interactive chess DB supported
>>>that.
>>
>>You don't have Chessbase do you?!!!!!!!!!
>>Why do you deny what I know?
>>I use it every day!
>>In Mega99  Database there are over 85,000 Players.
>>Doing what I posted takes a few seconds..
>
>There's no need to fly off the handle.
>
>What I said does not contradict what you said.  I was just pointing out that,
>using the method you stated above, in order to get a separate PGN file for each
>and every in a database such as Mega99 would require one to perform your
>procedure 85,000 times.  Assuming 20 seconds per player (which I feel is a
>radical lower bound, considering that one has to create a PGN output file,
>select the games from a sorted list, and export the selected games), you're
>talking, at a bare minimum, 472 hours, just short of 20 days.  20 days in front
>of the computer.  And you'd have to do each operation 85,000 times.
>
>The beauty of a batch operation (such as a modified version of PGN extract would
>be presumably able to do), is that one can set it, kick it off, and come back
>later.  It could probably do the job in a few hours at worst, because it doesn't
>have to deal with a UI and being controlled by a person using that UI.
>
>BTW, I have Chessbase 7.0, just haven't used it recently, and I never bothered
>to update it.  That, however, is irrelevant to my analysis of your suggested
>procedure.
>
>Chessbase is a extremely useful tool, but it wasn't designed to do everything.
>Different tools exist for different purposes.
>
>If Chessbase does have a batch mode where, with ONE operation, it can split the
>MegaDB, for example, into 85000 PGN files, each file with all the games by a
>single player, white and black,

Why would you want to?

then I'm wrong and I'll cheerfully admit it --
>but your procedure given in your note above does not address that issue.
>
>-- Randy Shane



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