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Subject: Re: CEGT / List Loop

Author: Tord Romstad

Date: 03:39:17 10/16/05

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Hi Matthias!

On October 16, 2005 at 06:10:20, Matthias Gemuh wrote:

>>It is better to contact the author of the program you think it is a clone of.
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>Wow, Tord !
>You seem to value fights without spectators, no referee ;).

Let me explain my opinions about this in some more detail:

Cloning is probably the most serious crime you can commit
in computer chess, particularly if you try to sell the clone.  It
is therefore very important that the cloners get caught, and
that the findings are made public.  It is no less important,
however, that public accusations of cloning are not made
lightly.  We are talking about a serious crime (within the
context of computer chess), after all.  It is extremely rude to
accuse somebody of cloning just because you dislike the
author, want to see a fight, or whatever.  You really need
some solid evidence.  That the program scores comparatively
better against program X than against programs Y and Z
in the first 40 (!) games played hardly qualifies as solid
evidence (putting it mildly).

In the case of List, we should also not forget that we are
talking about a commercial program.  Fritz is trying to
earn some money from his hard work.  I really don't want
to see him lose money because of some completely
unfounded speculations that his program might be a
clone.

P.S.  I am going to France for a week tonight and will not
have Internet access while I am there.  I will therefore not
be able to follow this discussion after 18:00 or so this evening

Tord



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