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Subject: Re: Is it a bug in Movei(what is your opinion?)

Author: Dann Corbit

Date: 15:47:08 10/17/05

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I think that the onus to claim the draw is upon the one in an inferior position.

From:
http://www.fide.com/official/handbook.asp?level=EE101

We have this:
"5.2  The game is drawn when the player to move has no legal move and his king
is not in check. The game is said to end in `stalemate`. This immediately ends
the game, provided that the move producing the stalemate position was legal.

The game is drawn when a position has arisen in which neither player can
checkmate the opponent`s king with any series of legal moves. The game is said
to end in a `dead position`. This immediately ends the game, provided that the
move producing the position was legal.

The game is drawn upon agreement between the two players during the game. This
immediately ends the game. (See Article 9.1)

The game may be drawn if any identical position is about to appear or has
appeared on the chessboard at least three times. (See Article 9.2)

The game may be drawn if each player has made at least the last 50 consecutive
moves without the movement of any pawn and without any capture. (See Article
9.3)"

And then this:
"Article 9: The drawn game
9.1  A player wishing to offer a draw shall do so after having made a move on
the chessboard and before stopping his clock and starting the opponent`s clock.
An offer at any other time during play is still valid, but Article 12.5 must be
considered. No conditions can be attached to the offer. In both cases the offer
cannot be withdrawn and remains valid until the opponent accepts it, rejects it
orally, rejects it by touching a piece with the intention of moving or capturing
it, or the game is concluded in some other way.

The offer of a draw shall be noted by each player on his scoresheet with a
symbol (See Appendix E13).

A claim of a draw under 9.2, 9.3 or 10.2 shall be considered to be an offer of a
draw.

9.2  The game is drawn, upon a correct claim by the player having the move, when
the same position, for at least the third time (not necessarily by a repetition
of moves)

is about to appear, if he first writes his move on his scoresheet and declares
to the arbiter his intention to make this move, or

has just appeared, and the player claiming the draw has the move.

Positions as in (a) and (b) are considered the same, if the same player has the
move, pieces of the same kind and colour occupy the same squares, and the
possible moves of all the pieces of both players are the same.
Positions are not the same if a pawn that could have been captured en passant
can no longer in this manner be captured or if the right to castle has been
changed temporarily or permanently.

9.3  The game is drawn, upon a correct claim by the player having the move, if

he writes his move on his scoresheet, and declares to the arbiter his intention
to make this move which shall result in the last 50 moves having been made by
each player without the movement of any pawn and without any capture, or

the last 50 consecutive moves have been made by each player without the movement
of any pawn and without any capture.

9.4  If the player makes a move without having claimed the draw he loses the
right to claim, as in Article 9.2 or 9.3, on that move.

9.5  If a player claims a draw as in Article 9.2 or 9.3, he shall immediately
stop both clocks. He is not allowed to withdraw his claim.

If the claim is found to be correct the game is immediately drawn.

If the claim is found to be incorrect, the arbiter shall add three minutes to
the opponent`s remaining time. Additionally, if the claimant has more than two
minutes on his clock the arbiter shall deduct half of the claimant`s remaining
time up to a maximum of three minutes. If the claimant has more than one minute,
but less than two minutes, his remaining time shall be one minute. If the
claimant has less than one minute, the arbiter shall make no adjustment to the
claimant`s clock. Then the game shall continue and the intended move must be
made.

9.6  The game is drawn when a position is reached from which a checkmate cannot
occur by any possible series of legal moves, even with the most unskilled play.
This immediately ends the game, provided that the move producing this position
was legal."

I think that the most salient part is:
"9.4  If the player makes a move without having claimed the draw he loses the
right to claim, as in Article 9.2 or 9.3, on that move."

It seems clear enough that if the draw is not claimed, you can still win the
game.



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